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69. I don't want to appear to make excuses for the cops...

Sun Nov 23, 2014, 12:44 PM

Nov 2014

...since I wasn't there and I'm not sure what actually happened, but owning a replica firearm comes with a certain responsibility, especially if the safety barrel is repainted.

My 17 year old grandson was here to rake my leaves and had baggy jeans on. I told him to always assume a gun is real and loaded. He wasn't hurt, and rest assured that he'll get even with Grandpa Asshole. Meanwhile, he left with a twenty dollar bill and a mint condition 1972 Pioneer receiver. Him, myself, and his dad are into vintage audio and grandpa faithfully scours the garage sales for it. I've done more during his lifetime to damage his hearing than his leg.

I only bought that M16 and an Uzi as kitchen wall hangings. The kid who sold them ripped me off on what turned out to be a broken Uzi though. Can't trust anyone when it comes to the gun trade, so lessons abound. haha

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Cops Shoot Boy, 12, Carrying 'Airsoft' Toy in Cleveland [View all] IDemo Nov 2014 OP

Did they even ask? Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #1

"toy" gun kardonb Nov 2014 #2

"why did this little punk remove the orange marking" Wow. You justify his getting shot because rhett o rick Nov 2014 #11

We dont know if the kid removed the markings of if someone else did or if cstanleytech Nov 2014 #15

Sadly, does it ultimately really matter? branford Nov 2014 #21

It matters as if someone else did it they could very well be looking at attempted murder cstanleytech Nov 2014 #22

I agree with your point entirely, branford Nov 2014 #24

Agree. Don't give 840high Nov 2014 #81

Demonizing irresponsible police ....yes, it is essential we do just that! FarPoint Nov 2014 #31

This "little punk" didn't design and market this so-called "toy". stone space Nov 2014 #57

Yeah Munificence Nov 2014 #61

If you follow the link you will see that Stonepounder Nov 2014 #3

See the sibling post I just made sir pball Nov 2014 #6

Ever seen an Airsoft? sir pball Nov 2014 #4

Yep, I own several of them Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #7

Well then, not to to be too blunt, but why should they "ask first"? sir pball Nov 2014 #9

I dunno Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #12

If the reports are true, it doesn't matter why he didn't properly comply. branford Nov 2014 #23

To cops in the UK, it probably does look like a "toy". stone space Nov 2014 #62

In the video, they shot him about 2 seconds upon arrival... TomCADem Nov 2014 #101

Having never been a boy--- Reformed Bully Nov 2014 #25

I'm unclear as to your point. branford Nov 2014 #42

To reply to entry #42 Reformed Bully Nov 2014 #53

Unfortunately, children being children has changed. branford Nov 2014 #54

That so-called "toy" should never have been marketed to kids. stone space Nov 2014 #66

"In society today..." Are you aware the murder rate is about *half* what it was 20-25 years ago? nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #86

About 20 years ago a couple of my step sons got into paint ball. Stonepounder Nov 2014 #68

cops were not wrong on this one. for a change. blackcrowflies Nov 2014 #5

The cops were wrong. They shot a kid. They seem too anxious to shoot. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #10

Yes but kids are shooting all the time Tumbulu Nov 2014 #16

Again, the murder rate in this country has *declined.* I don't know what people are panicking about. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #87

Are you being sarcastic? Tumbulu Nov 2014 #91

Don't own guns, probably never would. I know school shootings have arguably increased. nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #92

Yes they shot a kid but were they wrong? If the orange markings cstanleytech Nov 2014 #19

Let us not forget the Walmart shooting in Dayton Ohio last August. FarPoint Nov 2014 #32

Again, reacting way too fast, and perhaps irrationally as well. That's the common denominator. n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #88

there is no good reason to remove the orange marking rollin74 Nov 2014 #8

Insane behavior on the part of the person Tumbulu Nov 2014 #18

I disagree it wasnt insane if someone altered it rather it was criminal and if cstanleytech Nov 2014 #20

I did that when I was younger Veruca Salt Nov 2014 #95

I'm glad you didn't brandish yours on a playground Aerows Nov 2014 #103

Police are clearly not trained adequately. Maedhros Nov 2014 #13

here is an image of the airsoft gun involved in this incident rollin74 Nov 2014 #17

*crickets* Oktober Nov 2014 #29

If it were plain black, no markings sakabatou Nov 2014 #33

That looks real to me. ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #35

I'd be able to discern this was a child el scorcho Nov 2014 #79

The police version of events.... blackspade Nov 2014 #14

No one said the child "deserved" to be shot, branford Nov 2014 #26

Actually the very second post, someone implies it by calling the kid a punk. Rex Nov 2014 #37

That one poster hardly represents the perspective of almost everyone else here. nt branford Nov 2014 #43

See post #2.... blackspade Nov 2014 #58

My reaction, too. Always the police claim the person they shot reached for his waistband. tblue37 Nov 2014 #34

Or like the guy cops shot for not 'complying' because he was wearing blackspade Nov 2014 #59

They actually allow something this real looking to be sold to kids? LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #27

Yes you can... Oktober Nov 2014 #30

We have a real gun fetish problem in America. Rex Nov 2014 #38

I, too, was a child with many realistic toy guns in the 1970's and 80's. Good times. branford Nov 2014 #44

It wasn't unheard of in the 80's Action_Patrol Nov 2014 #75

As a kid in the 80s Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #76

A 12 year old is more than capable of engaging in serious violence, branford Nov 2014 #39

even with a BB gun? noiretextatique Nov 2014 #98

+1 nt LarryNM Nov 2014 #52

I think years ago the "solution" was just to take them out of toy stores Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #77

"We don't allow realistic looking "toys" like that to be sold" -wrong EX500rider Nov 2014 #83

my mistake LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #85

"Hands up, don't shoot" XemaSab Nov 2014 #28

Here kid- here's a toy gun that looks just like a real dangerous gun. Gwan out and Have Fun with it! NBachers Nov 2014 #36

Remember when kids could CC Nov 2014 #40

We also have a problem with kids killing other kids and adults that we didn't have not too long ago. branford Nov 2014 #46

Citation? blackspade Nov 2014 #60

And where are these kids killing adults and other kids getting their real CC Nov 2014 #70

So where's this supposed spike in the murder rate? nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #89

They look authentic. JohnnyRingo Nov 2014 #41

Huh? branford Nov 2014 #45

I don't want to appear to make excuses for the cops... JohnnyRingo Nov 2014 #69

When you live in a war zone, i.e. the States... NancyDL Nov 2014 #47

Survival tactics like what? branford Nov 2014 #50

Fuck, now kids can't play with TOYS anymore without getting shot by the pigs? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #48

Kids haven't been able to play with toys that look identical to real guns for decades. branford Nov 2014 #49

Threatening other kids and cops with a real looking gun XemaSab Nov 2014 #51

It's really not accurate to call them 'toys' when they are made and marketed as 'replicas'. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #63

I set up a mini bb/pellet gun range UglyGreed Nov 2014 #55

These "toys" need to be banned. stone space Nov 2014 #56

This is not the first time. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #64

Nor, unfortunately, will it be the last. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #65

Of course sadly white folks can open carry *REAL* weapons around the terminal in PHX Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #73

+1 nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #90

in the parks, in the schools, in the churches, in the pools MisterP Nov 2014 #71

I'll bet the kid was black. nt valerief Nov 2014 #67

Was he black? Quantess Nov 2014 #72

of course he was black noiretextatique Nov 2014 #99

Peace Officer olddots Nov 2014 #74

once again, my view: if you shoot someone, it's your responsibility to get it right. unblock Nov 2014 #78

The boy is dead Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #80

You are part of the problem when you eat the pablum sunnystarr Nov 2014 #82

TV News Report sunnystarr Nov 2014 #84

The gun was a .45 replica Aerows Nov 2014 #93

He went for the toy. joshcryer Nov 2014 #94

And no one Aerows Nov 2014 #102

It's easy to see 1.5-2 seconds of "reaction time" is insane. joshcryer Nov 2014 #104

Such as a gunman on a playground Aerows Nov 2014 #105

Not drive up to the "subject" and slam on the brakes? joshcryer Nov 2014 #106

The report to the police was that it looked like an airsoft toy gun... TomCADem Nov 2014 #100

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #96

Prior post? hlthe2b Nov 2014 #97