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(2,547 posts) Sun Nov 23, 2014, 01:20 PM Nov 2014

12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland police has died [View all]

Source: Cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The 12-year-old boy wielding what turned out to be a BB gun when he was shot by police outside a Cleveland recreation center died early Sunday morning, a police union official confirmed.

The boy, whose name has not been officially released, was shot in the stomach at Cudell Recreation Center, at Detroit Avenue and West Boulevard, about 3:30 p.m. Saturday, police said.

He was taken to MetroHealth Medical Center in serious condition, EMS officials said. Throughout the night his condition deteriorated and he died early Sunday, Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association president Jeff Follmer said.

The shooting came after a man at the park adjacent to the rec center called police when he saw "a guy with a gun pointing it at people."

Read more: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/12-year-old_boy_shot_by_clevel.html

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12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland police has died [View all] NeoConsSuck Nov 2014 OP

It makes it no less tragic TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #1

What did the airgun look like? ReRe Nov 2014 #34

I think all airsoft guns are realistic replicas of actual guns. TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #37

Since we now have a Police State... ReRe Nov 2014 #43

Looks real to me Aerows Nov 2014 #41

Damn sure does look real... ReRe Nov 2014 #44

I have absolutely no idea Aerows Nov 2014 #45

Thanks. ReRe Nov 2014 #61

The damn thing should be brightly colored. nt 7962 Nov 2014 #93

And in such a shape that it could never be mistaken for the real deal. GGJohn Nov 2014 #94

It would make it MORE tragic if that fact were reported. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #114

The cop is a gutless fuck who is hiding in the hospital. catnhatnh Nov 2014 #2

So, let me guess, GGJohn Nov 2014 #4

I agree BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #5

Or, redesign the damn things so they can't possibly be mistaken for a real gun. GGJohn Nov 2014 #6

Yeah BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #15

+1000. GGJohn Nov 2014 #19

Even so, they could just be spray painted. :( Sweet Freedom Nov 2014 #32

It's true BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #35

This is mainly a problem in the US jamzrockz Nov 2014 #62

Did you grow up in Canada? BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #80

Chris Rock said it best. mimi85 Nov 2014 #81

My son has an Air-Soft Baretta & Tommy Gun, his friends, AK-47's and M-16's. The cops here know. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #7

That's not to say that this cop knew. GGJohn Nov 2014 #8

The cop is a moron. It doesn't take much to be a police officer, and less to be a bad one. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #12

Easy for you to say sitting safe and sound behind a keyboard. GGJohn Nov 2014 #16

Yep, because I'm better educated and chose a better career. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #21

Uh Huh!!! GGJohn Nov 2014 #22

You're funny. What's to stop real guns from having orange tips glued to them or painted on them? nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #25

Nothing, matter of fact, it has happened. GGJohn Nov 2014 #28

This rookie is definitely a moron. FarPoint Nov 2014 #60

You are exactly right, but he will walk pocoloco Nov 2014 #27

And rightly so if his story holds up with the available evidence. GGJohn Nov 2014 #29

They should post a photo of that boy... Ino Nov 2014 #36

Where are you? George II Nov 2014 #23

Living in a place that better screens their police candidates and trains them. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #26

Shoot to kill ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #9

Wrong pal. GGJohn Nov 2014 #10

Perceived threat. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #17

the cop is a coward and a disgrace samsingh Nov 2014 #31

Easy for you to say, GGJohn Nov 2014 #48

again, the police have protocols and weapons to define them samsingh Nov 2014 #49

Murder? GGJohn Nov 2014 #53

More of the story warrant46 Nov 2014 #55

Someone did remove it, GGJohn Nov 2014 #58

At the time of the incident, the "how" or "where" the boy procured the gun is irrelevant. branford Nov 2014 #72

OK, that's the police report. Now, what is the truth? TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #74

There's dumb, and there's suicidal, and a 12 year old should readily know the difference. branford Nov 2014 #75

I concede, if video backs it up. Too much police cover-up tainted an officer's trust. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #78

We have some simple facts that no news story has yet to dispute. branford Nov 2014 #82

Keep prejudging, you'd make a great jurist, one the prosecutor in Ferguson would like. nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #83

If you believe that officers may be guilty of a crime, they are still presumed innocent. branford Nov 2014 #85

actually i like the police, i have relatives and friends in the police samsingh Nov 2014 #99

Good, I'm against murder also, GGJohn Nov 2014 #101

agreed - i want to know what the video shows samsingh Nov 2014 #104

They are also trained to aim for the center of mass OnlinePoker Nov 2014 #18

Thank you. GGJohn Nov 2014 #20

Cudell Rec Center is a known gang hangout, as well. OhioChick Nov 2014 #11

I have 2 grandsons - toy 840high Nov 2014 #14

Three kids here, two are boys. crim son Nov 2014 #33

+100 840high Nov 2014 #46

Looks real to me Scairp Nov 2014 #39

Looks pretty damn real to me. iandhr Nov 2014 #42

instant outrage : take little info and add lots of prejudicial hatred of police = belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #38

the police have killed alot of unarmed black people samsingh Nov 2014 #51

But in this case, the kid wasn't unarmed was he. GGJohn Nov 2014 #54

actually he was samsingh Nov 2014 #97

No, he was armed with a very realistic looking airsoft gun. GGJohn Nov 2014 #100

Really racking up the post counts spewing cover Darb Nov 2014 #108

Hi there. GGJohn Nov 2014 #115

The police have also, quite justifiably, branford Nov 2014 #77

i think a lot here lose sight of that fact. nt 7962 Nov 2014 #95

i think the stats show a lot of innocent unarmed black people being killed samsingh Nov 2014 #98

Maybe when the son of a famous person gets assinated by cops who shoot impulsively, this will end. FarPoint Nov 2014 #3

Not in our police state, sadly. nt valerief Nov 2014 #13

but was this cop shooting impulsively orleans Nov 2014 #24

What ever happened to taking cover? FarPoint Nov 2014 #47

Uh, if that was pointed at me Aerows Nov 2014 #63

Taking cover? If he cop did and it turned out to be a real gun and other children got shot.... George II Nov 2014 #64

Way too many fear based hypotheticals you got there.... FarPoint Nov 2014 #79

Could you kindly provides you expertise and bona fides concerning branford Nov 2014 #84

I've watched the news for over 30 years... FarPoint Nov 2014 #87

Watching the news for over 30 years qualifies you to sit comfortably on your couch, branford Nov 2014 #88

Your not worthy to know my professional background. FarPoint Nov 2014 #89

If you're sitting or where is of no concern. It changes the discussion not at all. branford Nov 2014 #90

Since it's only happened once, even in 2014 it's not a "common occurrance"... George II Nov 2014 #92

They didn't fail at all... George II Nov 2014 #86

How do you know he was reaching for his waistband? Ash_F Nov 2014 #91

Not if it's a black celebrity, I can tell you that... Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #112

The more I think about your point... FarPoint Nov 2014 #120

This is tragic on so many levels. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #30

shoot first smiley Nov 2014 #40

Absolute bullshit. GGJohn Nov 2014 #50

I did smiley Nov 2014 #107

giving cover to cops killing unarmed kids is Darb Nov 2014 #109

that... smiley Nov 2014 #111

Not unarmed as far as the responding officers knew, GGJohn Nov 2014 #116

UPDATE the Murdered Child was Black I guess we should call this Ferguson # 2 warrant46 Nov 2014 #52

The kid had a realistic looking gun in his waistband, GGJohn Nov 2014 #56

Someone removed the orange tip warrant46 Nov 2014 #57

Sorry for getting snippy, GGJohn Nov 2014 #59

It's not like 2 twelve year olds didn't Aerows Nov 2014 #69

"The thug murdering cop was afraid of a little black 12 year old"????? George II Nov 2014 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author warrant46 Nov 2014 #67

These 2 were 12 when they murdered 5 and wounded several at a school. Aerows Nov 2014 #70

did you see ohiochick's post upthread orleans Nov 2014 #66

I did now warrant46 Nov 2014 #68

So true. GGJohn Nov 2014 #71

The orange marker was probably removed from the Airsoft so the boy branford Nov 2014 #73

i was thinking the same thing about emulating role models orleans Nov 2014 #76

I don't believe one word of that "reached for his gun" Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #113

There is a video of it, GGJohn Nov 2014 #117

That thing looks plenty real to everybody GOLGO 13 Nov 2014 #96

This Is Sad erpowers Nov 2014 #102

this is a younger child Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #103

Totally Different cases erpowers Nov 2014 #105

Yep 12 and 13 year old children Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #106

Shoot him in the hand or leg? GGJohn Nov 2014 #119

It was justified, kid deserved to die, obviously. Darb Nov 2014 #110

That's a lie and you well know it. GGJohn Nov 2014 #118