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40. shoot first

Reply to NeoConsSuck (Original post)

Sun Nov 23, 2014, 04:47 PM

Nov 2014

and ask questions later. That is what seems to me, to have occurred here.

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12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland police has died [View all] NeoConsSuck Nov 2014 OP

It makes it no less tragic TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #1

What did the airgun look like? ReRe Nov 2014 #34

I think all airsoft guns are realistic replicas of actual guns. TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #37

Since we now have a Police State... ReRe Nov 2014 #43

Looks real to me Aerows Nov 2014 #41

Damn sure does look real... ReRe Nov 2014 #44

I have absolutely no idea Aerows Nov 2014 #45

Thanks. ReRe Nov 2014 #61

The damn thing should be brightly colored. nt 7962 Nov 2014 #93

And in such a shape that it could never be mistaken for the real deal. GGJohn Nov 2014 #94

It would make it MORE tragic if that fact were reported. Ken Burch Nov 2014 #114

The cop is a gutless fuck who is hiding in the hospital. catnhatnh Nov 2014 #2

So, let me guess, GGJohn Nov 2014 #4

I agree BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #5

Or, redesign the damn things so they can't possibly be mistaken for a real gun. GGJohn Nov 2014 #6

Yeah BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #15

+1000. GGJohn Nov 2014 #19

Even so, they could just be spray painted. :( Sweet Freedom Nov 2014 #32

It's true BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #35

This is mainly a problem in the US jamzrockz Nov 2014 #62

Did you grow up in Canada? BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #80

Chris Rock said it best. mimi85 Nov 2014 #81

My son has an Air-Soft Baretta & Tommy Gun, his friends, AK-47's and M-16's. The cops here know. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #7

That's not to say that this cop knew. GGJohn Nov 2014 #8

The cop is a moron. It doesn't take much to be a police officer, and less to be a bad one. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #12

Easy for you to say sitting safe and sound behind a keyboard. GGJohn Nov 2014 #16

Yep, because I'm better educated and chose a better career. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #21

Uh Huh!!! GGJohn Nov 2014 #22

You're funny. What's to stop real guns from having orange tips glued to them or painted on them? nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #25

Nothing, matter of fact, it has happened. GGJohn Nov 2014 #28

This rookie is definitely a moron. FarPoint Nov 2014 #60

You are exactly right, but he will walk pocoloco Nov 2014 #27

And rightly so if his story holds up with the available evidence. GGJohn Nov 2014 #29

They should post a photo of that boy... Ino Nov 2014 #36

Where are you? George II Nov 2014 #23

Living in a place that better screens their police candidates and trains them. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #26

Shoot to kill ... GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #9

Wrong pal. GGJohn Nov 2014 #10

Perceived threat. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #17

the cop is a coward and a disgrace samsingh Nov 2014 #31

Easy for you to say, GGJohn Nov 2014 #48

again, the police have protocols and weapons to define them samsingh Nov 2014 #49

Murder? GGJohn Nov 2014 #53

More of the story warrant46 Nov 2014 #55

Someone did remove it, GGJohn Nov 2014 #58

At the time of the incident, the "how" or "where" the boy procured the gun is irrelevant. branford Nov 2014 #72

OK, that's the police report. Now, what is the truth? TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #74

There's dumb, and there's suicidal, and a 12 year old should readily know the difference. branford Nov 2014 #75

I concede, if video backs it up. Too much police cover-up tainted an officer's trust. TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #78

We have some simple facts that no news story has yet to dispute. branford Nov 2014 #82

Keep prejudging, you'd make a great jurist, one the prosecutor in Ferguson would like. nt TheBlackAdder Nov 2014 #83

If you believe that officers may be guilty of a crime, they are still presumed innocent. branford Nov 2014 #85

actually i like the police, i have relatives and friends in the police samsingh Nov 2014 #99

Good, I'm against murder also, GGJohn Nov 2014 #101

agreed - i want to know what the video shows samsingh Nov 2014 #104

They are also trained to aim for the center of mass OnlinePoker Nov 2014 #18

Thank you. GGJohn Nov 2014 #20

Cudell Rec Center is a known gang hangout, as well. OhioChick Nov 2014 #11

I have 2 grandsons - toy 840high Nov 2014 #14

Three kids here, two are boys. crim son Nov 2014 #33

+100 840high Nov 2014 #46

Looks real to me Scairp Nov 2014 #39

Looks pretty damn real to me. iandhr Nov 2014 #42

instant outrage : take little info and add lots of prejudicial hatred of police = belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #38

the police have killed alot of unarmed black people samsingh Nov 2014 #51

But in this case, the kid wasn't unarmed was he. GGJohn Nov 2014 #54

actually he was samsingh Nov 2014 #97

No, he was armed with a very realistic looking airsoft gun. GGJohn Nov 2014 #100

Really racking up the post counts spewing cover Darb Nov 2014 #108

Hi there. GGJohn Nov 2014 #115

The police have also, quite justifiably, branford Nov 2014 #77

i think a lot here lose sight of that fact. nt 7962 Nov 2014 #95

i think the stats show a lot of innocent unarmed black people being killed samsingh Nov 2014 #98

Maybe when the son of a famous person gets assinated by cops who shoot impulsively, this will end. FarPoint Nov 2014 #3

Not in our police state, sadly. nt valerief Nov 2014 #13

but was this cop shooting impulsively orleans Nov 2014 #24

What ever happened to taking cover? FarPoint Nov 2014 #47

Uh, if that was pointed at me Aerows Nov 2014 #63

Taking cover? If he cop did and it turned out to be a real gun and other children got shot.... George II Nov 2014 #64

Way too many fear based hypotheticals you got there.... FarPoint Nov 2014 #79

Could you kindly provides you expertise and bona fides concerning branford Nov 2014 #84

I've watched the news for over 30 years... FarPoint Nov 2014 #87

Watching the news for over 30 years qualifies you to sit comfortably on your couch, branford Nov 2014 #88

Your not worthy to know my professional background. FarPoint Nov 2014 #89

If you're sitting or where is of no concern. It changes the discussion not at all. branford Nov 2014 #90

Since it's only happened once, even in 2014 it's not a "common occurrance"... George II Nov 2014 #92

They didn't fail at all... George II Nov 2014 #86

How do you know he was reaching for his waistband? Ash_F Nov 2014 #91

Not if it's a black celebrity, I can tell you that... Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #112

The more I think about your point... FarPoint Nov 2014 #120

This is tragic on so many levels. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #30

shoot first smiley Nov 2014 #40

Absolute bullshit. GGJohn Nov 2014 #50

I did smiley Nov 2014 #107

giving cover to cops killing unarmed kids is Darb Nov 2014 #109

that... smiley Nov 2014 #111

Not unarmed as far as the responding officers knew, GGJohn Nov 2014 #116

UPDATE the Murdered Child was Black I guess we should call this Ferguson # 2 warrant46 Nov 2014 #52

The kid had a realistic looking gun in his waistband, GGJohn Nov 2014 #56

Someone removed the orange tip warrant46 Nov 2014 #57

Sorry for getting snippy, GGJohn Nov 2014 #59

It's not like 2 twelve year olds didn't Aerows Nov 2014 #69

"The thug murdering cop was afraid of a little black 12 year old"????? George II Nov 2014 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author warrant46 Nov 2014 #67

These 2 were 12 when they murdered 5 and wounded several at a school. Aerows Nov 2014 #70

did you see ohiochick's post upthread orleans Nov 2014 #66

I did now warrant46 Nov 2014 #68

So true. GGJohn Nov 2014 #71

The orange marker was probably removed from the Airsoft so the boy branford Nov 2014 #73

i was thinking the same thing about emulating role models orleans Nov 2014 #76

I don't believe one word of that "reached for his gun" Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #113

There is a video of it, GGJohn Nov 2014 #117

That thing looks plenty real to everybody GOLGO 13 Nov 2014 #96

This Is Sad erpowers Nov 2014 #102

this is a younger child Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #103

Totally Different cases erpowers Nov 2014 #105

Yep 12 and 13 year old children Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #106

Shoot him in the hand or leg? GGJohn Nov 2014 #119

It was justified, kid deserved to die, obviously. Darb Nov 2014 #110

That's a lie and you well know it. GGJohn Nov 2014 #118