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jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
42. But the non firearm
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 05:50 PM
Nov 2014

expert knew it was probably fake. Sad the trigger happy police couldn't tell the difference. You also have to believe the cop's side of the story.

How the Cleveland Police Rushed To Get Their Story Straight About Cop Who Shot 12-Year Old

We were told that the child was in stable condition, according to the Cleveland EMS workers we spoke with. But police didn’t seem to even know that. Today, we were informed that the boy died, but we have yet to receive confirmation of this.

Then, their official press release painted a very vivid picture of a 12-year-old who was out to apparently gun down an officer with his… BB-gun.

The statement read: “The Preliminary information reveals that witnesses reported that a male was in the playground area of the center, waiving a gun and pointing it at people.”

But we were unable to find one witness who said such a thing. In fact, the police at first did not even say this, when we asked them point blank if the child had threatened anyone.

“Upon arrival on scene, officers located the suspect and advised him to raise his hands,” the statement continues. “The suspect did not comply with the officers’ orders and reached to his waistband for the gun. Shots were fired and the suspect was struck in the torso.”

Cleveland police are asking us to believe that an armed police officer drew a gun on a 12-year-old who was armed only with a toy weapon, and instead of complying or even ignoring the officer, the child reached for the gun to presumably aim it at the officer?

The Cleveland police are essentially asking us to believe that this 12-year-old was at the park for the purposes of “Suicide-by-cop.” Clearly no 12-year-old would think that they could get in a real shoot out with an officer, if they were armed only with a BB-gun. So the purpose of allegedly drawing the gun would only be to have the officer shoot him. That is the implication that the Cleveland Police Department’s official statement makes regarding this shooting.

But the problem is that they not only are asking us to believe this far-fetched idea, they are asking us to believe that their story is true, even when it took the release of our viral article on the shooting to prompt them to piece together a response.

When police officers ask a citizen to explain what happened when they shoot someone – allegedly in self-defense – then it is almost a tacit implication of guilty if they remain silent for hours, while piecing together what they consider to be a believable account.

So far, there has yet to be one single witness who has come forward to corroborate the official police version of events. Yet we are suppose to believe the officer’s story that paints a 12-year-old with a BB-gun as a deranged maniac out to trick officers into believing his gun was real. It seems slightly more realistic that police are covering their tracks, as they always do when they shoot someone who turns out to have been unarmed, and their story – as unbelievable and ridiculous as it is – was what they could come up with on short notice, thanks to the pressure circulation of our report on the shooting was putting on them.


http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/11/how-the-cleveland-police-had-to-rush/


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Then why did you call! geomon666 Nov 2014 #1
why is he a coward? orleans Nov 2014 #2
If I was there I would've at least talked to the kid. joshcryer Nov 2014 #3
Not everyone has your courage, or your confidence to assess the threat . . . Journeyman Nov 2014 #7
That's so tragic, and I'm sorry to hear that. joshcryer Nov 2014 #10
everyone is an armchair hero belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #12
if you tried the parents would come charging at you yelling at you to mind your own fking business belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #11
Sure, whenever I see somebody with a gun, ... stone space Nov 2014 #15
Maybe after observing the person jamzrockz Nov 2014 #22
It would be safer if dangerous ammosexuals... stone space Nov 2014 #24
What the hell is an ammosexual? GGJohn Nov 2014 #26
Here's one. stone space Nov 2014 #28
Not too interested in watching the video... but the pre-play shot it has... Scootaloo Nov 2014 #51
All gun owners that disagree with them on gun control hack89 Nov 2014 #30
Don't puposefully get it wrong, Darb Nov 2014 #57
Why don't you show me the official definition hack89 Nov 2014 #59
It's slang, new slang, don't think it has an "official" definition, Darb Nov 2014 #62
for some here Duckhunter935 Nov 2014 #53
Here some more: Darb Nov 2014 #58
Those that are hated and fear by the ammophobic friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #54
Are those who are willing to learn about firearms and have an open mind, ammocurious? branford Nov 2014 #55
Good question... friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #56
Maybe because he knew it was probably a fake jamzrockz Nov 2014 #20
In this case, it seems the cop was justified. GGJohn Nov 2014 #21
So what if he was open carrying? jamzrockz Nov 2014 #23
He failed to comply with the officer's orders, he pulled the gun out of his waistband, GGJohn Nov 2014 #25
Looks real to me. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #32
I couldn't agree with you more. GGJohn Nov 2014 #34
I disagree with "EVERY shooting that leaves a body" TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #40
Any time a trigger is pulled and somebody is turned into a corpse Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #41
No, if the officer's story is in question, then, of course, a trial TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #45
I think the proper people do decide if something is a 'senseless tragedy' are a jury of one's peers. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #46
Again, not every dead body requires a trial - gun or no gun TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #47
But the non firearm jamzrockz Nov 2014 #42
As I said, even in that very comment Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #43
He wasn't open carrying. Dr. Strange Nov 2014 #39
Stop saying justified, he wasn't justified to kill a 12 year old holding Darb Nov 2014 #60
It hasn't been ruled justified yet, but if that video backs up the officers story, it will be ruled GGJohn Nov 2014 #61
Say it all you want, for that matter, cry about it, but it ain't justified. Darb Nov 2014 #63
Again, what part of the cops didn't know at that time that the gun wasn't real? GGJohn Nov 2014 #64
What part of shooting first and asking questions later do you not understand. Darb Nov 2014 #65
Two shots to the chest? GGJohn Nov 2014 #67
He killed a kid he didn't have to kill. Darb Nov 2014 #68
Blah, blah, blah. GGJohn Nov 2014 #69
How's the water carrying going? Darb Nov 2014 #70
Here, I'll say it again. GGJohn Nov 2014 #71
Here, I'll say it again, Darb Nov 2014 #72
Too funny. GGJohn Nov 2014 #73
Calling 911 was the right thing to do. stone space Nov 2014 #14
Sorry this is slightly off topic Kalidurga Nov 2014 #4
What if the next mass shooter paints the tip of his (real) gun orange? (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #9
We must immediately outlaw orange paint. Orrex Nov 2014 #17
More dead kids. stone space Nov 2014 #27
You mean the violent lunatic who can walk into a Walmart and Darb Nov 2014 #66
I don't see how this information changes the incident except to make it all the more tragic. branford Nov 2014 #5
BB guns can still be dangerous. bobclark86 Nov 2014 #6
True, a BB gun is still dangerous, branford Nov 2014 #8
a real gun could have an orange tip belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #19
These days it is just not safe nor UglyGreed Nov 2014 #13
We shouldn't let the toy manufacturers off the hook. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #29
I agree N/T UglyGreed Nov 2014 #35
I think the officer did the right thing, people were terrified so it seemed real. Happyhippychick Nov 2014 #16
probably means maybe not belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #18
A horrible tragedy, but understandable given the picture of the gun up thread Lurks Often Nov 2014 #31
I think the larger issue might be how the kid responded... EX500rider Nov 2014 #33
I find it hard to believe jamzrockz Nov 2014 #44
My understanding was that he was told to raise his hands and instead he reached for the gun... EX500rider Nov 2014 #48
I know jamzrockz Nov 2014 #49
Sure, the kid could've been confused, GGJohn Nov 2014 #50
This is true jamzrockz Nov 2014 #52
Seems like a bad week for "rookie" officers and the people who meet up with them Thor_MN Nov 2014 #36
He wasn't on his own, he was paired with veteran cop. GGJohn Nov 2014 #37
Possibly a badly written story, but... Thor_MN Nov 2014 #38
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