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In reply to the discussion: 9-1-1 caller says gun held by Cleveland 12-year-old shot by police was 'probably fake' [View all]jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)42. But the non firearm
expert knew it was probably fake. Sad the trigger happy police couldn't tell the difference. You also have to believe the cop's side of the story.
How the Cleveland Police Rushed To Get Their Story Straight About Cop Who Shot 12-Year Old
We were told that the child was in stable condition, according to the Cleveland EMS workers we spoke with. But police didnt seem to even know that. Today, we were informed that the boy died, but we have yet to receive confirmation of this.
Then, their official press release painted a very vivid picture of a 12-year-old who was out to apparently gun down an officer with his BB-gun.
The statement read: The Preliminary information reveals that witnesses reported that a male was in the playground area of the center, waiving a gun and pointing it at people.
But we were unable to find one witness who said such a thing. In fact, the police at first did not even say this, when we asked them point blank if the child had threatened anyone.
Upon arrival on scene, officers located the suspect and advised him to raise his hands, the statement continues. The suspect did not comply with the officers orders and reached to his waistband for the gun. Shots were fired and the suspect was struck in the torso.
Cleveland police are asking us to believe that an armed police officer drew a gun on a 12-year-old who was armed only with a toy weapon, and instead of complying or even ignoring the officer, the child reached for the gun to presumably aim it at the officer?
The Cleveland police are essentially asking us to believe that this 12-year-old was at the park for the purposes of Suicide-by-cop. Clearly no 12-year-old would think that they could get in a real shoot out with an officer, if they were armed only with a BB-gun. So the purpose of allegedly drawing the gun would only be to have the officer shoot him. That is the implication that the Cleveland Police Departments official statement makes regarding this shooting.
But the problem is that they not only are asking us to believe this far-fetched idea, they are asking us to believe that their story is true, even when it took the release of our viral article on the shooting to prompt them to piece together a response.
When police officers ask a citizen to explain what happened when they shoot someone allegedly in self-defense then it is almost a tacit implication of guilty if they remain silent for hours, while piecing together what they consider to be a believable account.
So far, there has yet to be one single witness who has come forward to corroborate the official police version of events. Yet we are suppose to believe the officers story that paints a 12-year-old with a BB-gun as a deranged maniac out to trick officers into believing his gun was real. It seems slightly more realistic that police are covering their tracks, as they always do when they shoot someone who turns out to have been unarmed, and their story as unbelievable and ridiculous as it is was what they could come up with on short notice, thanks to the pressure circulation of our report on the shooting was putting on them.
http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/11/how-the-cleveland-police-had-to-rush/
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9-1-1 caller says gun held by Cleveland 12-year-old shot by police was 'probably fake' [View all]
alp227
Nov 2014
OP
if you tried the parents would come charging at you yelling at you to mind your own fking business
belzabubba333
Nov 2014
#11
Are those who are willing to learn about firearms and have an open mind, ammocurious?
branford
Nov 2014
#55
He failed to comply with the officer's orders, he pulled the gun out of his waistband,
GGJohn
Nov 2014
#25
I think the proper people do decide if something is a 'senseless tragedy' are a jury of one's peers.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Nov 2014
#46
It hasn't been ruled justified yet, but if that video backs up the officers story, it will be ruled
GGJohn
Nov 2014
#61
I don't see how this information changes the incident except to make it all the more tragic.
branford
Nov 2014
#5
I think the officer did the right thing, people were terrified so it seemed real.
Happyhippychick
Nov 2014
#16
A horrible tragedy, but understandable given the picture of the gun up thread
Lurks Often
Nov 2014
#31
My understanding was that he was told to raise his hands and instead he reached for the gun...
EX500rider
Nov 2014
#48
Seems like a bad week for "rookie" officers and the people who meet up with them
Thor_MN
Nov 2014
#36