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TorchTheWitch

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73. I think you imagine "slitting" as slicing the throat open
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:38 AM
Nov 2014

as if it was done by someone else. But one doesn't think of slitting one's wrists as hacking into the flesh as if to remove the hand. That's why I'm thinking in personally slitting one's own throat would be the same as slitting their wrists... just opening a vein to bleed out, not cutting deep into the flesh. I also don't think that it was the throat so much as more to the side of the neck where major veins are.

If that was the way of it, and I'm guessing it was, then I can think of a whole lot of other horrific methods particularly those that take a lot of time while conscious like jumping, drowning or slow hanging that chokes one to death rather than a quick neck snap. Slitting one's throat in the same manner as slitting one's wrists seems pretty benign to me. While bloody, one would lose consciousness pretty quickly and wouldn't be aware for the rest. Drowning in particular seems one of the worst. I can't even imagine how terrible to be holding one's breath for long minutes knowing that any second they'd give out and have to suck in water. Choking to death can take a very long time and seems another conscious horror of awareness. Jumping if done from very high can take long seconds before the splat, and if not high enough may not kill instantly at all.

I watched rather recently a documentary about the people that jumped or fell from the twin towers on 9/11. In all the years since it happened I couldn't stomach watching things like that from that day, so this was the first for me. It horrified me when they said it took something like 10 or more seconds of free fall before hitting the ground and that in doing the autopsies discovered that all of them were conscious during the fall and died when they hit. I can't even fathom how unbearably long that 10 seconds was and to be aware of it all the way through. Ugh. And what would they also be physically feeling while free falling so fast? What would that do to one's body?

Now I wish I never watched the documentary at all though all these years I'd had morbid curiosity and almost a wretched feeling of needing to know the worst from that day. I still wish they hadn't rebuilt. I don't know how anyone will ever be able to look at new towers in that place and not be vividly reminded of what happened with the old ones and how many people suffered so horribly. I know I can't stand to look at the one they just finished.

No, to me the most horrible methods are the ones that take what can be a terrible amount of time where they're conscious and aware especially if also feeling pain during that time. Though other ways are certainly more bloody and gross, at least they're instant or they go unconscious before death quickly.

I just realized what an odd and depressing subject this is. Can't say I've ever actually thought about any of it before. Don't think I want to again either. I feel like I now need a rose to smell or a basket of puppies.



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kind of a pattern Botany Nov 2014 #1
Thanks. That's eye opening. WhiteTara Nov 2014 #9
Yes, and now a whistle blower in the last couple of weeks. More to come. jwirr Nov 2014 #13
Of course. WhiteTara Nov 2014 #44
They have been happening for a long time now. We have all wondered why these young people are jwirr Nov 2014 #45
greed and power are formidable and WhiteTara Nov 2014 #46
I also think they are feeling a bit guilty and this is their way out. jwirr Nov 2014 #47
Do sociopaths feel guilt? WhiteTara Nov 2014 #53
"and now a whistle blower in the last couple of weeks" dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #60
No, last week the news was full of a witness to the banks actions came out and started talking. jwirr Nov 2014 #62
ahhh..yes....the one Taibbi wrote about. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #64
That is the lady. And I also am surprised she is alive. jwirr Nov 2014 #65
another article about Miller wordpix Nov 2014 #68
Is it just me or does this seems odd. glinda Nov 2014 #2
Indeed, it seems odd. WhiteTara Nov 2014 #7
Seems odd. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #61
The overall number of banker suicides though isnt really to shocking imo cstanleytech Nov 2014 #3
nothing to see here,...... just keep moving along. flying_wahini Nov 2014 #4
I was a nurse, so I have Warpy Nov 2014 #6
Usually people go for the wrists first WhiteTara Nov 2014 #8
aGREE. 840high Nov 2014 #10
Seems apparent he most likely could have done it. Who slits their glinda Nov 2014 #29
It could easily drop there. Warpy Nov 2014 #37
That's true plus I don't know the body position also. glinda Nov 2014 #48
Yep. Sounds about as convincing as a 2 shots in the back of the head suicide. LisaL Nov 2014 #5
Or the kid in the back of a cop car... TeeYiYi Nov 2014 #11
OMG glinda Nov 2014 #30
Slit throat, suicide, RIIIIIIIGHT!!! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #12
Seems An Odd Choice, Indeed ProfessorGAC Nov 2014 #57
Seems alot of Suicidal Bankers..but no Banking Heads have gone to Jail... KoKo Nov 2014 #14
Banned billhicks76 Nov 2014 #40
WhiteTara Diclotican Nov 2014 #15
I think you might be right. WhiteTara Nov 2014 #28
Exactly. glinda Nov 2014 #31
Reminds me of a case from my hometown in PA a few years back . . . markpkessinger Nov 2014 #16
Seriously... ReRe Nov 2014 #27
Hired killer, or serial killer / stalker? Nobel_Twaddle_III Nov 2014 #17
I'm sure it's nothing. Just an accident. RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #18
good one glinda Nov 2014 #32
Oh Rufus, Rufus . . . Petrushka Nov 2014 #41
Vince Welnick, former keyboardist for the Tubes and the Grateful Dead, committed suicide this way. bbernardini Nov 2014 #19
Yes...I Knew Vince billhicks76 Nov 2014 #39
Another one??? Makes you wonder what's about to happen.... or happened. grahamhgreen Nov 2014 #20
More info. octoberlib Nov 2014 #21
Now that is going to kill alot of the speculation on the thread. cstanleytech Nov 2014 #25
Actually, the part about calling 911 about a stalker lends credence to a murder theory daleo Nov 2014 #26
Easy situation actually...a "plant" and drugs and getting the victim basically glinda Nov 2014 #33
I am refering to the guy from the elevator people were speculating about earlier but then cstanleytech Nov 2014 #36
Not really. Talk to enough incompetent suicides who made it Warpy Nov 2014 #38
I have known a few suicides and a few attempted suicides daleo Nov 2014 #56
Jumpers who are talked down often say it was unplanned Warpy Nov 2014 #58
great to know your $ invested in social/environmental funds is managed by wordpix Nov 2014 #69
21214. roamer65 Nov 2014 #22
K&R DeSwiss Nov 2014 #23
"Banker Ebola" strikes again nikto Nov 2014 #24
"Suicide." More like HOMICIDE. I wonder what he knew, that he had to be silenced??? blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #34
While it sounds hinky, consider the source. intheflow Nov 2014 #35
I would think one would have to be seriously mentally ill tk2kewl Nov 2014 #42
Or have done a lot of crystal meth...which might be the situation (see upthread). nt MADem Nov 2014 #51
how does one commit suicide by any method without being seriously mentally ill? TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #71
while I kind of agree... tk2kewl Nov 2014 #72
I think you imagine "slitting" as slicing the throat open TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #73
Almost as good.. sendero Nov 2014 #43
I've never heard of someone committing suicide this way tabasco Nov 2014 #49
I am no forensic analyst, but it's entirely possible to open one's veins and put the knife down MADem Nov 2014 #50
What do you call a Wall Street banker with a slit throat? Man from Pickens Nov 2014 #52
Horrible post mahina Nov 2014 #54
Here is another link reporting on this incident: AnotherDreamWeaver Nov 2014 #55
patenting death derivatives "enable pension plans to hedge the risk of payments to retirees" wordpix Nov 2014 #70
…another banking related death! librechik Nov 2014 #59
Your closing sentence Delphinus Nov 2014 #63
Yes, there were a rash of scientists WhiteTara Nov 2014 #66
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #67
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