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In reply to the discussion: 12-year-old boy shot by Cleveland police has died [View all]Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)103. this is a younger child
Robert Sandifer
Early life
Robert Sandifer was born on March 12, 1983. Sandifer's mother, Lorina Sandifer, had a history of over 30 misdemeanor arrests, many of which were drug related. Sandifer's father, Robert Akins, was absent for all of Sandifer's life due to incarceration. Sandifer was, according to child welfare authorities, severely mistreated and neglected. Before he was 3, Sandifer was already known to Department of Children and Family Services (DCFS). Sandifer was alleged to have had cigarette burns on his arms and neck as well as linear bruising consistent with physical beatings. In 1986, Sandifer and his siblings were removed from his mother's home by DCFS and were sent to live with their grandmother. His grandmother's residence contained as many as 19 children on some occasions. By most accounts, his grandmother's home was not much better than Sandifer's previous home. Sandifer, by the age 8, quit attending school and began to roam the streets stealing cars and breaking into houses. In 1993, Sandifer and his siblings were removed from his grandmother's home and were sent to the Lawrence Hall DCFS shelter on Chicago's north side, from which Sandifer ran away and never returned. From 1993 until his death, Sandifer's whereabouts and living arrangements remain unclear, although he continued to be arrested by the authorities.[6]
Criminal behavior
Yummy was known for bullying and extorting money from local children and the community in the Chicago neighborhood of Roseland. He liked luxury cars and, remarkably, was able to drive them despite his small stature. Many of his 23 felonies and 5 misdemeanors were committed in the course of running errands for street gangs. The penal system had no way to keep him out of trouble and the courts were helpless to lock him away because he was too young for juvenile detention and too dangerous to be placed with children his age.
Death
On August 28, 1994, Sandifer began harassing locals from his neighborhood. He opened fire several times with a 9 millimeter semiautomatic pistol, striking several youths. Sandifer quickly fled the scene. Shavon Dean, age 14, later died from her gunshot wounds. The crime spree made national headlines. The nation was shocked by the brutality of the crime and the fact that the alleged perpetrator was only 11 years old. The Chicago Police began a manhunt for Sandifer. According to Sgt. Ronald Palmer, of the Chicago Police, Sandifer's actions were a gang initiation gone wrong. On Wednesday, August 31, while still in hiding, Sandifer was met by brothers Cragg and Derrick Hardaway, ages 16 and 14, members of the Black Disciples street gang. Sandifer was told he was being taken some place safe and ordered into a waiting car. Instead, he was brought to a viaduct underpass and told to get on his knees. While on his knees, he was shot twice in the back of his head by Cragg and Derrick Hardaway. Sandifer's body was discovered by the Chicago Police Department in the early morning of September 1. Both Cragg and Derrick Hardaway were later convicted of Sandifer's murder.[7] Sandifer's funeral was held at the Youth Center Church of God in Christ in Chicago's Northwest Side. [8]
Early life
Robert Sandifer was born on March 12, 1983. Sandifer's mother, Lorina Sandifer, had a history of over 30 misdemeanor arrests, many of which were drug related. Sandifer's father, Robert Akins, was absent for all of Sandifer's life due to incarceration. Sandifer was, according to child welfare authorities, severely mistreated and neglected. Before he was 3, Sandifer was already known to Department of Children and Family Services (DCFS). Sandifer was alleged to have had cigarette burns on his arms and neck as well as linear bruising consistent with physical beatings. In 1986, Sandifer and his siblings were removed from his mother's home by DCFS and were sent to live with their grandmother. His grandmother's residence contained as many as 19 children on some occasions. By most accounts, his grandmother's home was not much better than Sandifer's previous home. Sandifer, by the age 8, quit attending school and began to roam the streets stealing cars and breaking into houses. In 1993, Sandifer and his siblings were removed from his grandmother's home and were sent to the Lawrence Hall DCFS shelter on Chicago's north side, from which Sandifer ran away and never returned. From 1993 until his death, Sandifer's whereabouts and living arrangements remain unclear, although he continued to be arrested by the authorities.[6]
Criminal behavior
Yummy was known for bullying and extorting money from local children and the community in the Chicago neighborhood of Roseland. He liked luxury cars and, remarkably, was able to drive them despite his small stature. Many of his 23 felonies and 5 misdemeanors were committed in the course of running errands for street gangs. The penal system had no way to keep him out of trouble and the courts were helpless to lock him away because he was too young for juvenile detention and too dangerous to be placed with children his age.
Death
On August 28, 1994, Sandifer began harassing locals from his neighborhood. He opened fire several times with a 9 millimeter semiautomatic pistol, striking several youths. Sandifer quickly fled the scene. Shavon Dean, age 14, later died from her gunshot wounds. The crime spree made national headlines. The nation was shocked by the brutality of the crime and the fact that the alleged perpetrator was only 11 years old. The Chicago Police began a manhunt for Sandifer. According to Sgt. Ronald Palmer, of the Chicago Police, Sandifer's actions were a gang initiation gone wrong. On Wednesday, August 31, while still in hiding, Sandifer was met by brothers Cragg and Derrick Hardaway, ages 16 and 14, members of the Black Disciples street gang. Sandifer was told he was being taken some place safe and ordered into a waiting car. Instead, he was brought to a viaduct underpass and told to get on his knees. While on his knees, he was shot twice in the back of his head by Cragg and Derrick Hardaway. Sandifer's body was discovered by the Chicago Police Department in the early morning of September 1. Both Cragg and Derrick Hardaway were later convicted of Sandifer's murder.[7] Sandifer's funeral was held at the Youth Center Church of God in Christ in Chicago's Northwest Side. [8]
"I also do not want to hear the mother, or parents of this child blamed. I do not want to hear the community, culture, or race blamed."
Who should be blamed for this child's actions?
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My son has an Air-Soft Baretta & Tommy Gun, his friends, AK-47's and M-16's. The cops here know.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#7
The cop is a moron. It doesn't take much to be a police officer, and less to be a bad one.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#12
You're funny. What's to stop real guns from having orange tips glued to them or painted on them? nt
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#25
Living in a place that better screens their police candidates and trains them.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#26
At the time of the incident, the "how" or "where" the boy procured the gun is irrelevant.
branford
Nov 2014
#72
There's dumb, and there's suicidal, and a 12 year old should readily know the difference.
branford
Nov 2014
#75
I concede, if video backs it up. Too much police cover-up tainted an officer's trust.
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#78
Keep prejudging, you'd make a great jurist, one the prosecutor in Ferguson would like. nt
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2014
#83
If you believe that officers may be guilty of a crime, they are still presumed innocent.
branford
Nov 2014
#85
instant outrage : take little info and add lots of prejudicial hatred of police =
belzabubba333
Nov 2014
#38
Maybe when the son of a famous person gets assinated by cops who shoot impulsively, this will end.
FarPoint
Nov 2014
#3
Taking cover? If he cop did and it turned out to be a real gun and other children got shot....
George II
Nov 2014
#64
Watching the news for over 30 years qualifies you to sit comfortably on your couch,
branford
Nov 2014
#88
If you're sitting or where is of no concern. It changes the discussion not at all.
branford
Nov 2014
#90
Since it's only happened once, even in 2014 it's not a "common occurrance"...
George II
Nov 2014
#92