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In reply to the discussion: Allen West: I've 'Heard' 80 House Democrats Are Communist Party Members [View all]Diclotican
(5,095 posts)freshwest
I don't know about cosmic cycles, but I do know what could happened, with the ones who doesn't learn from history. And stay vigilant when the same thing happened again.... And to be honest, most americans have no clue what could become them, if anything like the nazis ts was to ever rise their ugly head in the US... It was BAD in Europe under the nazi rule in Germany - and the occupation of most of Europe.. Until Pearl Harbor in 1941, President FDR had to go a thin like between been able to help UK and Churchill, and appease the many who wanted US to stay out of "an europe ran war we doesn't have any business going into".. And FDR had to play the game of being natural - but helping UK as best as he was able to do.... And to be honest, if it was not for the fact that Japan attacked Hawaii, I am afraid that UK, and most of EUROPE would have been under the sway of Hitler for a long time... UK was by November/December 1941 on the verge of suing for peace... The attack by Japan, and the answer from Germany and Hitler, why gave US the war (the speech was by experts on the issue properly the best oratorical speech Hitler ever was able to give the german people ever) Was one big vitamin pill for the UK, and for most of the occupied Europeans... When US got into the war, it was clearly Hitler was not able to win the war....
The great depressions in the 1930s was a horrible time, where many found them selfs in need of something to blame for their own misfortunes.. Many claimed it to be the jews - others claimed it to be other groups... In germany, as in Italy and in many other nations in Europe, it ended in fascism in one way or another... In US it thankfully doesn't ended in fascism, even tho it was a short wile, after FDR was elected president in 1933, that many US officers up to the rank of generals, wanted to make a coupe against the legal president - to give the US a more fascism like ideology... Thankfully to some decent, hardworking american officers, who decided to be on the right side of history, this coup never happened. Even tho the whole case was under the rug for more than 60 year after the facts... I think Roosevelt possible was afraid of what else could happened, if he wanted to make a stand against it, early in the 1930s.. Event ho he in the 1940 did more than anyone else in the US, to fight against the fascism in Europe or elsewhere.. But in the 1930s, Roosevelt had enough on his plate to repair, and the whole affair with the officers who wanted to make coup against the president never got the attention it should have been given....
You are also right in that some get a lot of money, on the back of the money, even under the deep depression.. Even tho many was hurt by the depression, some always came up on the top, even before world war two, who really got the train going - long after the war...
But the fact is, that US, doesn't have any Franklin D. Roosevelt in office now.. Your current president Obama, for all his virtues is just one man against a big ugly machine that doesn't want anything less than to squish him to small pieces if they could do it.. The Neo-liberal ideology who since Reagan have been given foot and hand in the US governance is the biggest treat to the same Democracy they claim to fight for... What they want, is a country ruled by the rich, for the rich and dam the rest.. After more or less managed to destroy the trade unions in the 1970s and 1980s, and castrate everyone who is against the ideology of the neo-liberalistic ideology I am not sure what to do, to win that war... But I do believe, that neo-liberal ideology is a danger to the world - as nazism was it before ..
The attack against disabled and poor is nothing new in the world.. It looks like disability is something that "healthy ones" can mock about, even when they might one day find them self in the same boat so to say. I am on disability myself - and I have found that even in my own country (who most americans I have known here on DU looks to as more or less heaven
) some says that people with disability should get out working instead of living on the public dime... Well I have tried to get out in work for the last 2-3 years - and the employment office have more or less said "sorry, you are on disability and we doesn't want to take your case, as it Will be a long way to get you out in a job".... So yeah I know what it means, to be told "why are you not out working, you looks fine".. Yeah, they should have my arthritis, my depression and so one.... I would work, if I was able to.... But I'm not;/
The Bush family, specially the old Prescott Bush himself is a history of treason.. If it was one way of justice in the world, Prescott Bush should have been arrested, convicted, and put in a prison cell for the rest of his natural life for the treason against US.. Not just because he was bankrolling the nazi st who wanted to trow out Roosevelt in the 1930s.. But also for the fact, that he was doing business with the Nazi-Regime long after war was declared upon US in 1941...
The specially of hate radio is another specially for the extreme right in the US i would presume... Most of them would never been able, or given permission to even talk on most european channels, as most european nations still have a "fairness doctrine" intact in the airwaves.. I have had the misfortune of hearing some of the hate-radio by internet looking for some radios from US.. And i am pretty scared about the tone against minorities and everyone else who might be attacked that day.... That type of media would never be allowed on this side of the pond... We had that in the 1930s, when Dr Gobbles was making a scene for it all... Most of Europe, learned the hard way, what could happend if "hate" radio ever make it to the public again...
What we all need, is the americans to wake up and smell the shit as it is.. And then work against it to make US what it once was - a prosperius, rich country who the rest of the world was admiring and wanted to be like... The symbols of US, like the Coca-Cola and Mickey Mouse was one of the first symbols to really make it big in eastern Europe, after the wall was going down... That symbols could again mean something for most of us... As it once did (even tho Cola is maybe not the most healty ideal to live by
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Sometimes I miss the time when I admired US for all its virtues, and for all the god things she did for the world.. The last decade of so, have been a great disapointed for me.... US is not what I once belived it to be...
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