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43. Yes, violent rebellion against one's own government is treason.

Fri Dec 5, 2014, 07:34 PM

Dec 2014

I don't know that I object to it, regardless of the reason. In the US in 1776, in France in 1789, in Russia in 1914, I probably would have sided with the rebels. Not on the side of rebelling because the US did not want to extend slavery to the territories, though.

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U.S. justices to hear Confederate license plate free speech case [View all] Eugene Dec 2014 OP

You have the right to say what you want nichomachus Dec 2014 #1

Right and especially right when the platform they want to use elleng Dec 2014 #3

There is a University of Oklahoma license plate in Texas dariomax Mar 2015 #98

'TEXAS' is the State, elleng Mar 2015 #99

U. Of Oklahoma also sponsors its logo and message dariomax Mar 2015 #100

So a city that puts up a Christmas creche, may ban a menorah? eallen Dec 2014 #13

Where did that come from? nichomachus Dec 2014 #16

The government doesn't have to provide a platform. But if it provides that for some... eallen Dec 2014 #19

The confederate flag is the symbol of treason over slavery. When Texas allows other merrily Dec 2014 #22

I agree. And when the court rules the state may not discriminate here... eallen Dec 2014 #86

That's ridiculous. The states deny vanity plates with things they consider offensive. HERVEPA Dec 2014 #28

Actually the vanity plate situation is also a free speech issue... PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #36

Yes, but all speech is not protected by the First Amendment. merrily Dec 2014 #38

And this will be yet another case the SC gets to decide the limits. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #40

Yep. But, sadly, the SCOTUS is neither infallible nor objective/apolitical. merrily Dec 2014 #41

Do you consider yourself infallible or apolitical? Nt dariomax Mar 2015 #104

Did you read past the subject line of my post #41 before you replied to it? merrily Mar 2015 #105

Not at all nichomachus Dec 2014 #29

Plate on one's property is required by the state and if plates are allowed to be personalized then lonestarnot Dec 2014 #74

A city that puts up a creche is still free to deny a display to groups that believe in human merrily Dec 2014 #31

I doubt it. eallen Dec 2014 #87

I don't doubt it. merrily Dec 2014 #88

Just weird. Just get regular plate like the super yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #62

Sounds silly to me. elleng Dec 2014 #2

I don't know why the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals LeftInTX Dec 2014 #11

SCOTUS heaven05 Dec 2014 #4

are there not anti abortion plates--same dif dembotoz Dec 2014 #5

Yep, Here in weirdland (Florida) , they make Choose Life plates that have children on them. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #6

They'll tell u the Choose Life tags are pro adoption, not antiabortion 7962 Dec 2014 #8

What does abortion have to do with a symbol of treason and/or slavery? merrily Dec 2014 #32

One ought to at least have to prove they are direct descendant of Tx confederate, not just a racist. Hoyt Dec 2014 #7

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals LeftInTX Dec 2014 #9

How many of the 4 liberal judges... dariomax Mar 2015 #103

License plates issued by government under regulation are subject to free speech rights? Silly. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #10

Sounds like it to me LeftInTX Dec 2014 #12

What if they allowed a license plate with a Christian message but not an atheist one? Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #15

It's time for the Satanists to get their plates LeftInTX Dec 2014 #21

Should a "Rape a Minor Tonight" plate be allowed? Please see Reply 22 merrily Dec 2014 #39

It is just like saying that your ancestors randr Dec 2014 #14

To the core homegirl Dec 2014 #17

Flying the confederate flag is yet another example of trolling.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #18

It's a symbol of treason over the "right" to extend slavery to the territories. merrily Dec 2014 #37

What's sad is they like to think of themselves as "rebels"..... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #42

Yes, violent rebellion against one's own government is treason. merrily Dec 2014 #43

I would have loved to have been there for this... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #46

LOL! Amazing how fast something a few of the 99% FINALLY said got to be a talking point. merrily Dec 2014 #47

The Ferguson riots make that a little less clear, no? n/t Psephos Dec 2014 #48

I'm sorry, but I am not understanding your question. Make what less clear? merrily Dec 2014 #49

Whether violent rebellion against government is treason. Psephos Dec 2014 #50

I am not sure that Ferguson was even attempting violent overthrow of government. merrily Dec 2014 #53

Yes, I read each of your posts in this thread in their entirety. Psephos Dec 2014 #70

I don't think the definition of treason depends on whether one side with the rebels or not merrily Dec 2014 #72

Not really. Justifiable homicide is still homicide. Allegedly justifiable treason is still treason. merrily Mar 2015 #106

The Confederates were trying to secede Yupster Dec 2014 #82

I knew this dude who'd wear a t-shirt just for the reaction. Inkfreak Dec 2014 #81

Yeeup... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2014 #83

Georgia issues those plates Feral Child Dec 2014 #20

Technically, the issue for the court was not whether a state that wishes to do so merrily Dec 2014 #35

I see. Feral Child Dec 2014 #76

PS, I bet if 500 people requested a "Fire on the Governor of Georgia" license plate, Georgia merrily Dec 2014 #45

Yes, I believe there is a group. Feral Child Dec 2014 #75

I understand. It's a complex sphere. merrily Dec 2014 #78

Indeed. Feral Child Dec 2014 #90

Doesn't flying the flag of a sworn enemy of the United States make you an enemy combatant? DFW Dec 2014 #23

Here's a solution hollowdweller Dec 2014 #24

The confederate flag is associated with treason over the issue of slavery. merrily Dec 2014 #34

Easy accusation to make - but not as easy to prove. [After the war] "...Jefferson Davis, President 24601 Dec 2014 #57

? The flag is associated today with treason over slavery. That is easy to prove. Just take a poll. merrily Dec 2014 #59

Just re-read the Constitution and it's silent on polls. The law I posted has never been repealed 24601 Dec 2014 #60

The constitution is silent on polls? What is the significance of that in the context of merrily Dec 2014 #61

I thought all polls were crap. yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #63

You never heard that from me, but that is beside the point. Do you believe that they are merrily Dec 2014 #65

I was being facetious yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #67

Nothing to be sorry about. The actual point here, originally, was simply merrily Dec 2014 #69

Deleted-wrong spot. merrily Dec 2014 #64

If we go on polls, there is no end things that are tied to racism. You could probably get a poll 24601 Dec 2014 #94

S_L_A_V_E_R_Y does not spell "racism." T_R_E_A_S_O_N does not spell "racism" either. merrily Dec 2014 #95

Just to keep the record straight, secession without the consent of all states IS unconstitutional. merrily Dec 2014 #66

If unconstitutional equals treason, President Obama qualified when his recess appointments were 24601 Dec 2014 #85

Please stop twisting my words. I never said unconstitutional = treason. Not even close. merrily Dec 2014 #89

Ah, I did find something about Chase and Davis, but not a "finding." merrily Dec 2014 #68

Chase ruled that a state could NOT succeed, read his opinion in Texas vs White: happyslug Dec 2014 #92

Public Law 85-425 adopted May 23, 1958 as H.R. 358 is a Welfare Program. happyslug Dec 2014 #93

confederates were terrorists joe_stampingbull Dec 2014 #25

License plates should just be letters and numbers. Enough with the cutesy bullshit. Throd Dec 2014 #26

Keep it up you racist pukes...keep it up NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #27

Driving is a privilege Politicalboi Dec 2014 #30

Glorifying treason is not a free speech right in this country. merrily Dec 2014 #33

In this case the SCOTUS should also sadoldgirl Dec 2014 #44

Let the racists Self-Identify ... JoePhilly Dec 2014 #51

Way to regress, Texas Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #52

The State of Texas refused to issue the license plate. merrily Dec 2014 #54

Oops, overlooked that. Getting tired. Although, Texas is regressing even without the plate. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #58

It will be interesting to see how Justice Thomas votes on this court case. TexasTowelie Dec 2014 #55

Great comment in the Dallas Morning News article: TexasTowelie Dec 2014 #56

LOVE how this argument is for the Confederate tags... but considering states have laws against... JustFiveMoreMinutes Dec 2014 #97

After WW2 Germany made displaying the Nazi flag illegal. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #71

The USA has the First Amendment, Germany does not. branford Dec 2014 #73

The state has the right to free speech too bluestateguy Dec 2014 #77

Never thought of a state as having a free speech right. merrily Dec 2014 #91

What do the "Sons of Confederate Veterans, Inc." do? YarnAddict Dec 2014 #79

If they win, we'll know whose a bigot/racist/rwinger real easy. (nt) Inkfreak Dec 2014 #80

The cowardly prostitute majority on the "Supreme" Court tabasco Dec 2014 #84

How many liberal judges, if any, will side with Texas... dariomax Mar 2015 #102

The Confederate flag stands for everything that is wrong with this country mb999 Dec 2014 #96

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