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tularetom

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30. I dunno, the standard for even indictments of cops is pretty high

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 07:13 PM

Dec 2014

Even when there is a video showing a guy being choked to death by some idiot cop, the grand jury ignores it. This video is nowhere near as clear as the one in the Garner death.

In this case, the cop was scared shitless and fired on the kid practically before the car even stopped. Furthermore the same cop was fired from another department for being emotionally unsuited for police work.

A lot of people have some splainin to do behind this incident. The cop, his partner, his supervisors, whoever determined this asswipe was fit to be a police officer and on and on. But I don't have much confidence that anything will come out of it.

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Mom of boy shot by cop: I want police conviction [View all] Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP

Lets all hope they convict the idiot who removed the markings and the one who gave it to the kid as cstanleytech Dec 2014 #1

Charge with what exactly? pkdu Dec 2014 #2

Manslaughter or maybe even murder might be a good start because cstanleytech Dec 2014 #12

Only one person pulled the trigger on a 12 yr old , within 1.5 seconds of opening his car door pkdu Dec 2014 #28

You saw the video right? Adrahil Dec 2014 #79

Of course I saw the video...hence my (sarcastic ) question... pkdu Dec 2014 #80

Really? Not all targets need be shot. immoderate Dec 2014 #5

I suspect that even the best trained police might have had a problem cstanleytech Dec 2014 #16

Looking at the video, the gun was NOT visible when the cops pulled up and shot him. uppityperson Dec 2014 #19

Yes I have watched it but the quality makes it difficult for me to tell what happened exactly. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #25

IF he was reaching for that gun, it wasn't visible when he was shot. uppityperson Dec 2014 #27

It is ridiculous to even suggest the child was reaching for the toy JimDandy Dec 2014 #40

I never said he was reaching for the toy gun "after" he was shot cstanleytech Dec 2014 #41

They didn't give him any time to respond to police commands. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #38

Thats not what I read. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #44

Not buying the police statement. Lugano Dec 2014 #45

Me neither, especially liberalhistorian Dec 2014 #82

I've watched the video. There's no way he had a reasonable amount of time to "surrender." nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #46

Except if they used the cars PA system and that wouldnt show on camera. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #50

Uh.. proof of PA message.. Lugano Dec 2014 #53

"if" cstanleytech Dec 2014 #54

"its equally possible they are lying to cover their butts" nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #56

It appears that every "if" you conjure is predisposed towards law enforcement LanternWaste Dec 2014 #88

Doesn't look like the best trained Stryder Dec 2014 #42

From the linked article (!): tblue37 Dec 2014 #86

This. amandabeech Dec 2014 #91

I will agree with you heaven05 Dec 2014 #7

This gets worse all the time. I had not read about the sister. jwirr Dec 2014 #9

I do not know who removed the markings but I think I read that it was his friend's gun. jwirr Dec 2014 #8

The point didn't just sail over your head - you ducked Scootaloo Dec 2014 #21

Whoever gave it to him did nothing illegal gwheezie Dec 2014 #61

I didnt say charged with altering the toy, rather charge them with causing the death of the kid by cstanleytech Dec 2014 #62

Are they sold with orange tips? gwheezie Dec 2014 #63

Check cstanleytech Dec 2014 #65

Doesn't apply to bb guns gwheezie Dec 2014 #66

So, if a BLACK friend heaven05 Dec 2014 #71

If his "BLACK" or "WHITE" friend is the one who altered the weapon? Yup cstanleytech Dec 2014 #72

okay heaven05 Dec 2014 #83

I don't want to blame the victim. murielm99 Dec 2014 #3

Did you watch the video? He did not have it viewable when cops arrived and shot him. They never saw uppityperson Dec 2014 #6

In the video I saw, the cops pulled up christx30 Dec 2014 #10

Please post a link to that video. It's not what I saw.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #14

He must have another video than the one released since that one had no sound and the cops faces were uppityperson Dec 2014 #17

I've looked for another, but the only video of this crime mountain grammy Dec 2014 #23

You could see the cops tell him that? That is amazing since they were facing away from the camera. uppityperson Dec 2014 #15

In the video I saw the cops pulled up and immediately shot Tamir Rice csziggy Dec 2014 #18

They shot him literally within about 5 seconds of pulling up next to him. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #37

That's what I saw in the video - no time for the cops to yell anything at Tamir csziggy Dec 2014 #39

You guys do realize that police cars come equipped with a PA system right? cstanleytech Dec 2014 #47

So why haven't witnesses come forward to say they heard the police over the PA? csziggy Dec 2014 #55

I dont know just like I dont know if they used the PA but its possible that is a possibility cstanleytech Dec 2014 #60

Then you did not see the video of Tamir Rice being shot Scootaloo Dec 2014 #22

Where's this audio of keeping his hands Politicalboi Dec 2014 #34

And now he's going to get some more action... Lugano Dec 2014 #48

really heaven05 Dec 2014 #68

Gas stations handed these out in the 60's (like candy) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #11

That reminded me - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #36

Tamir did not have it out when the police arrived, shot him. They did not see it before shooting him uppityperson Dec 2014 #4

We probably wont ever know for sure what happened since the video offers a limited viewpoint and cstanleytech Dec 2014 #24

Maybe the cops dashcam would show us more Politicalboi Dec 2014 #35

+1 freshwest Dec 2014 #13

I also hope for a conviction of the cop who killed this kid.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #20

I wouldnt hold my breath as the officer was responding to a call of someone with a weapon. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #26

You hold your breath. There's plenty here to indict and convict.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #32

Clearly for you there is which is probably why you would be dismissed cstanleytech Dec 2014 #43

There's plenty here for charges without a grand jury... mountain grammy Dec 2014 #49

Prosecutors also need evidence if they dont want the judge to throw the case out or cstanleytech Dec 2014 #52

Nonsense, they have a video of the incident.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #58

There was video of the Reginald Denny attack and the jury didnt agree with the prosecutor in that cstanleytech Dec 2014 #59

Is it that cops heaven05 Dec 2014 #69

Nope I am sure there are some racist cops but I am just not willing to cstanleytech Dec 2014 #73

I would NEVER and never have said heaven05 Dec 2014 #84

I never said there wasnt "a" problem as for the size of it *shrug* thats a matter of opinion. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #89

yep heaven05 Dec 2014 #90

I dunno, the standard for even indictments of cops is pretty high tularetom Dec 2014 #30

Yes, just once, let's look at the history of the cop.. the twelve year old doesn't have one.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #33

I wonder if being found unsuitable for work in another county Lugano Dec 2014 #51

Heartbreaking, the video should be proof for conviction, of course, these days it's obvious the AuntPatsy Dec 2014 #29

I fear she's going to be sorely disappointed. PeteSelman Dec 2014 #31

I can respond now since I calmed down gwheezie Dec 2014 #57

Try cstanleytech Dec 2014 #64

I'm answered above gwheezie Dec 2014 #67

It, the video, is NOT difficult to see heaven05 Dec 2014 #70

For you I am sure its not difficult at all. nt cstanleytech Dec 2014 #76

They sell real looking pellet guns at my corner store for 15 bucks. bravenak Dec 2014 #78

thank you for that heaven05 Dec 2014 #85

"In hindsight could they have handled it better? Maybe." Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #75

she'll be lucky to see an indictment 0rganism Dec 2014 #74

Me too nt abelenkpe Dec 2014 #77

I am looking for a conviction too. bigwillq Dec 2014 #81

For this woman marym625 Dec 2014 #87