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40. It is ridiculous to even suggest the child was reaching for the toy

Mon Dec 8, 2014, 09:47 PM

Dec 2014

gun after being shot, if that's what you mean by 'reaching into a pocket'. The boy knew it was a useless TOY.

What really gets me is that the 2 officers exibited depraved indifference when they didn't come to his aid after shooting him. In some cities, you or I could have been charged for not coming to aid of another person. Why aren't police held to at least that standard?

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Mom of boy shot by cop: I want police conviction [View all] Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP

Lets all hope they convict the idiot who removed the markings and the one who gave it to the kid as cstanleytech Dec 2014 #1

Charge with what exactly? pkdu Dec 2014 #2

Manslaughter or maybe even murder might be a good start because cstanleytech Dec 2014 #12

Only one person pulled the trigger on a 12 yr old , within 1.5 seconds of opening his car door pkdu Dec 2014 #28

You saw the video right? Adrahil Dec 2014 #79

Of course I saw the video...hence my (sarcastic ) question... pkdu Dec 2014 #80

Really? Not all targets need be shot. immoderate Dec 2014 #5

I suspect that even the best trained police might have had a problem cstanleytech Dec 2014 #16

Looking at the video, the gun was NOT visible when the cops pulled up and shot him. uppityperson Dec 2014 #19

Yes I have watched it but the quality makes it difficult for me to tell what happened exactly. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #25

IF he was reaching for that gun, it wasn't visible when he was shot. uppityperson Dec 2014 #27

It is ridiculous to even suggest the child was reaching for the toy JimDandy Dec 2014 #40

I never said he was reaching for the toy gun "after" he was shot cstanleytech Dec 2014 #41

They didn't give him any time to respond to police commands. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #38

Thats not what I read. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #44

Not buying the police statement. Lugano Dec 2014 #45

Me neither, especially liberalhistorian Dec 2014 #82

I've watched the video. There's no way he had a reasonable amount of time to "surrender." nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #46

Except if they used the cars PA system and that wouldnt show on camera. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #50

Uh.. proof of PA message.. Lugano Dec 2014 #53

"if" cstanleytech Dec 2014 #54

"its equally possible they are lying to cover their butts" nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #56

It appears that every "if" you conjure is predisposed towards law enforcement LanternWaste Dec 2014 #88

Doesn't look like the best trained Stryder Dec 2014 #42

From the linked article (!): tblue37 Dec 2014 #86

This. amandabeech Dec 2014 #91

I will agree with you heaven05 Dec 2014 #7

This gets worse all the time. I had not read about the sister. jwirr Dec 2014 #9

I do not know who removed the markings but I think I read that it was his friend's gun. jwirr Dec 2014 #8

The point didn't just sail over your head - you ducked Scootaloo Dec 2014 #21

Whoever gave it to him did nothing illegal gwheezie Dec 2014 #61

I didnt say charged with altering the toy, rather charge them with causing the death of the kid by cstanleytech Dec 2014 #62

Are they sold with orange tips? gwheezie Dec 2014 #63

Check cstanleytech Dec 2014 #65

Doesn't apply to bb guns gwheezie Dec 2014 #66

So, if a BLACK friend heaven05 Dec 2014 #71

If his "BLACK" or "WHITE" friend is the one who altered the weapon? Yup cstanleytech Dec 2014 #72

okay heaven05 Dec 2014 #83

I don't want to blame the victim. murielm99 Dec 2014 #3

Did you watch the video? He did not have it viewable when cops arrived and shot him. They never saw uppityperson Dec 2014 #6

In the video I saw, the cops pulled up christx30 Dec 2014 #10

Please post a link to that video. It's not what I saw.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #14

He must have another video than the one released since that one had no sound and the cops faces were uppityperson Dec 2014 #17

I've looked for another, but the only video of this crime mountain grammy Dec 2014 #23

You could see the cops tell him that? That is amazing since they were facing away from the camera. uppityperson Dec 2014 #15

In the video I saw the cops pulled up and immediately shot Tamir Rice csziggy Dec 2014 #18

They shot him literally within about 5 seconds of pulling up next to him. nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #37

That's what I saw in the video - no time for the cops to yell anything at Tamir csziggy Dec 2014 #39

You guys do realize that police cars come equipped with a PA system right? cstanleytech Dec 2014 #47

So why haven't witnesses come forward to say they heard the police over the PA? csziggy Dec 2014 #55

I dont know just like I dont know if they used the PA but its possible that is a possibility cstanleytech Dec 2014 #60

Then you did not see the video of Tamir Rice being shot Scootaloo Dec 2014 #22

Where's this audio of keeping his hands Politicalboi Dec 2014 #34

And now he's going to get some more action... Lugano Dec 2014 #48

really heaven05 Dec 2014 #68

Gas stations handed these out in the 60's (like candy) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #11

That reminded me - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #36

Tamir did not have it out when the police arrived, shot him. They did not see it before shooting him uppityperson Dec 2014 #4

We probably wont ever know for sure what happened since the video offers a limited viewpoint and cstanleytech Dec 2014 #24

Maybe the cops dashcam would show us more Politicalboi Dec 2014 #35

+1 freshwest Dec 2014 #13

I also hope for a conviction of the cop who killed this kid.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #20

I wouldnt hold my breath as the officer was responding to a call of someone with a weapon. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #26

You hold your breath. There's plenty here to indict and convict.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #32

Clearly for you there is which is probably why you would be dismissed cstanleytech Dec 2014 #43

There's plenty here for charges without a grand jury... mountain grammy Dec 2014 #49

Prosecutors also need evidence if they dont want the judge to throw the case out or cstanleytech Dec 2014 #52

Nonsense, they have a video of the incident.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #58

There was video of the Reginald Denny attack and the jury didnt agree with the prosecutor in that cstanleytech Dec 2014 #59

Is it that cops heaven05 Dec 2014 #69

Nope I am sure there are some racist cops but I am just not willing to cstanleytech Dec 2014 #73

I would NEVER and never have said heaven05 Dec 2014 #84

I never said there wasnt "a" problem as for the size of it *shrug* thats a matter of opinion. cstanleytech Dec 2014 #89

yep heaven05 Dec 2014 #90

I dunno, the standard for even indictments of cops is pretty high tularetom Dec 2014 #30

Yes, just once, let's look at the history of the cop.. the twelve year old doesn't have one.. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #33

I wonder if being found unsuitable for work in another county Lugano Dec 2014 #51

Heartbreaking, the video should be proof for conviction, of course, these days it's obvious the AuntPatsy Dec 2014 #29

I fear she's going to be sorely disappointed. PeteSelman Dec 2014 #31

I can respond now since I calmed down gwheezie Dec 2014 #57

Try cstanleytech Dec 2014 #64

I'm answered above gwheezie Dec 2014 #67

It, the video, is NOT difficult to see heaven05 Dec 2014 #70

For you I am sure its not difficult at all. nt cstanleytech Dec 2014 #76

They sell real looking pellet guns at my corner store for 15 bucks. bravenak Dec 2014 #78

thank you for that heaven05 Dec 2014 #85

"In hindsight could they have handled it better? Maybe." Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #75

she'll be lucky to see an indictment 0rganism Dec 2014 #74

Me too nt abelenkpe Dec 2014 #77

I am looking for a conviction too. bigwillq Dec 2014 #81

For this woman marym625 Dec 2014 #87