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In reply to the discussion: No charges for seller who sold gun to W.Va. killer [View all]hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)58. In an ideal situation
Every gun would have a title like a car.
Before the transfer went thru the paperwork would have to be filled out and sent in and then the seller could sell to the buyer.
During that time a criminal background check would be completed.
However at this point people are convinced that if we had a situation where every gun had a title that the government could come in and confiscate their guns later on if the law changed. It's not entirely without precedent either.
I really thought the Heller decision would have paved the way for something like the above, since with the right to own guns guaranteed by law there would be no reason to be afraid of a gun having a title.
However the decision was so ambiguously written that it allows for the NRA to keep on fundraising on the registration leads to confiscation meme. Maybe that was the intention. Why kill the cash cow??
I live in WV and my old neighbor who had done time for attempted murder owned a gun and used to poach deer all the time. He couldn't own a gun legally. He went back to prison though.
What I found disturbing about the whole thing, rather than how he got is gun, was the guy had actually taken another GF hostage, had to be talked out by law enforcement several years earlier and the guy only did 3 years!!!! I know people who have sold prescription drugs who did more time than that!!!
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Responsible gun owners would have paid an FFL to handle background check and transfer,
Hoyt
Dec 2014
#31
That's the problem with the law, and the problem with gun owners. They don't give a darn.
Hoyt
Dec 2014
#56
States can close this. OR, the federal government can open up NICS so private sellers
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#4
Gun owners can do it through an FFL right now. Not a good idea to open it to public.
Hoyt
Dec 2014
#32
An FFL has to keep records. Your average yahoo selling a gun in a parking lot, isn't
Hoyt
Dec 2014
#35
That's why it needs to go through FFL. We're going around in circles, I think I'll get off.
Hoyt
Dec 2014
#48
Well, they aren't going to open up NICS, so on that, we agree. It'll have to go through an FFL.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#49
I fully realize that. So take your gun to FFL to record transfer. Is that too much to ask so-called
Hoyt
Dec 2014
#50
I realize the guy who sold the gun can't be charged, legally. Morally, it's another question.
Hoyt
Dec 2014
#53
What federal law was broken? He sold it from one WV resident to another WV resident. nt
kelly1mm
Dec 2014
#78
I'm not sure if it is the law anywhere but I have read about ways to do background checks
csziggy
Dec 2014
#8
Manchin proposed that but Feinstein sucked out all the oxygen out of the debate
Recursion
Dec 2014
#83
All, or the majority? Of course not. But some do seem to be trying to compensate for something.
nomorenomore08
Dec 2014
#21
Mine? I have no problem with gun ownership. Though I would like to see universal background checks
nomorenomore08
Dec 2014
#23
"It was [from] a gun magazine. I just thought it was a fantastic, insane thing to say.
nomorenomore08
Dec 2014
#28
As you note, there is precedent for government confiscation after registration.
branford
Dec 2014
#60
And yet our party spends more energy banning bayonet lugs and regulating rifles' grip shape
Recursion
Dec 2014
#84