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RoccoR5955

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112. For that fact alone.

Wed Dec 10, 2014, 01:04 AM

Dec 2014

If I do not know the situation, I cannot understand the actions.
I shall NEVER condone killing. It's just the way I am.
I hope you can accept the fact that there are those of us who do not believe that there should EVER be a reason to take another life.

On another front, as much as I am as angry as I have ever been with this torture report that has come out, I do not believe that the perpetrators of these deeds should be put to death. I believe that even though they committed crimes against humanity, that they should have their lives terminated. I believe that they should spend the rest of their lives imprisoned, and away from the public in general.

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Police shoot man who stabbed student in synagogue [View all] Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP

An example of whats a 'good shoot" for a change. 7962 Dec 2014 #1

Obvious threat? Before the cops arrived, yes. Hoppy Dec 2014 #5

This individual was actually armed. And wasn't afraid to use his knife, obviously. LisaL Dec 2014 #13

"No shoot to wound?" Unfortunately that is just not realistic. yellowcanine Dec 2014 #18

There is no "shoot to wound" anywhere. branford Dec 2014 #19

No such thing as "shoot to wound" GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #48

Nope. This was perfectly ok. yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #76

Lets try again. The guy had a knife. That means his range of harm Hoppy Dec 2014 #78

Because trick shots like that outside of movies are completely unrealistic. Posteritatis Dec 2014 #81

You've been watching too many Hollywood movies, GGJohn Dec 2014 #90

Oh please. 7962 Dec 2014 #83

There's no such thing as shoot to wound. chrisa Dec 2014 #128

sigh Snow Leopard Dec 2014 #170

Yeah, good shoot and good riddance. nt geek tragedy Dec 2014 #2

Another "shoot to kill" killing RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #3

Police have never shot to disarm except in movies. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #4

Not always in movies. skamaria Dec 2014 #71

The Mike Plumb shot was, quite literally, the exception that proves the rule. branford Dec 2014 #79

Sorry, RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #162

Really, that's your criticism? branford Dec 2014 #165

Because shooting to wound or disarm... brendan120678 Dec 2014 #14

I don't know how true that is RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #23

Yes, our cops are trigger happy. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #27

justified in this case samsingh Dec 2014 #25

I'm sorry but... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #63

Wow. That is a really naive statement. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #64

So it's okay for you to take another person's life RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #65

Yes, in some circumstances it is OK for me to take the life of another. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #66

And if your lethal actions RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #67

No, a revenge killing is never justified. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #68

You just don't get it. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #69

Or you did not explain your thoughts well. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #70

So, according to you.. harrose Dec 2014 #73

There is only one option RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #75

Feel free to give examples of other options. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #77

I lack specific details of the entire situation. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #105

If you lack specific details of the entire situation, GGJohn Dec 2014 #107

For that fact alone. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #112

If that's the way you feel, then that's your right, I disagree with it, but I do respect your GGJohn Dec 2014 #120

I'm asking in the hypothetical harrose Dec 2014 #80

You are not thinking outside of the box. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #104

Sometimes there just isn't any other way to stop someone intent on complete destruction. GGJohn Dec 2014 #106

Can you RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #109

Pol Pot, Adolph Hitler, Osama Bin Laden. GGJohn Dec 2014 #111

Then you are just as bad as those who you mention. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #115

I've committed genocide? When did I do that? GGJohn Dec 2014 #118

No, sometimes there's not. harrose Dec 2014 #108

Then you are not thinking on your feet. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #110

I haven't been in a situation that the other poster describes, GGJohn Dec 2014 #114

Well then there must have been a good reason RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #116

My Avatar would be your first clue. GGJohn Dec 2014 #119

Sorry, but apparently he HAS no clue. 7962 Dec 2014 #136

I was under the impression that everyone knew what the Vietnam Service Ribbon looked like. GGJohn Dec 2014 #137

Wow!! I'm sure you have some stories. A friend's dad flew F-4s there 7962 Dec 2014 #140

AF Pararescue? GGJohn Dec 2014 #141

I do not know RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #164

Thank you for trying to bring us home, I deeply respect those that protested the war. GGJohn Dec 2014 #167

You really can't see this happening? harrose Dec 2014 #117

When an armed individual means you harm FrodosPet Dec 2014 #134

With all due respect, christx30 Dec 2014 #144

So THIS didnt happen? Just 2 days ago? 7962 Dec 2014 #152

If someone is trying to stab me, christx30 Dec 2014 #166

So you'd just let someone kill you rather than kill them? Really? 7962 Dec 2014 #84

I live by myself. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #89

"I do not believe that people are killed for no apparent reason." Holy crap. 7962 Dec 2014 #97

Not true. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #100

If you did, you'd see numerous murders of innocent people for no reason. 7962 Dec 2014 #102

Yep RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #130

You're right. We should have never opposed Hitler. Its our fault. 7962 Dec 2014 #135

Look RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #138

Sad response. You dont lose an argument by pointing out a fact that is on topic. 7962 Dec 2014 #139

How the hell is RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #142

So start an OP with a poll. "Is killing someone EVER justified?" 7962 Dec 2014 #150

You don't even believe in self defense ? treestar Dec 2014 #161

Nope. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #163

So then answer this one question? RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #95

What part of he was attempting to harm or kill the police also do you not understand? GGJohn Dec 2014 #98

You didn't answer my question. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #99

Because they're continuing to try to kill others. GGJohn Dec 2014 #101

And you didn't answer my question (post 80) harrose Dec 2014 #103

This guy wasn't killed to show that kiling is wrong. christx30 Dec 2014 #127

convince the murderers and killers first and then i'll be happy to agree with you samsingh Dec 2014 #72

Then answer me this... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #93

for justice, for the victims, to protect society samsingh Dec 2014 #121

So then lowering yourself to the level or a killer RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #123

i don't follow the logic that justice is lowering oneself to the level of a 'killer' samsingh Dec 2014 #132

peaceful resistance. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #133

Gandhi believed in self-defense. X_Digger Dec 2014 #146

it worked for Gandhi because he was up against the British samsingh Dec 2014 #148

He said that is what the Jews should do. Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #149

the action to take depends on the opponent samsingh Dec 2014 #160

That, by far, is the dumbest statement yet in this thread. GGJohn Dec 2014 #91

Dumb huh? RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #94

Guess I was wrong about it being the dumbest statement in this thread, GGJohn Dec 2014 #96

And here I thought the 'ka-pow' shooting a gun from a perp's hand was silly. X_Digger Dec 2014 #145

Meanwhile EMS was out on the sidewalk trying to Historic NY Dec 2014 #158

Whatever happened to it? IT never existed as a police tactic. X_Digger Dec 2014 #143

Maybe in your world. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #159

I'm not too young to remember Gene Autry and The Lone Ranger. X_Digger Dec 2014 #168

And your video comes from RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #171

FBI training was considered the gold standard for police agencies. X_Digger Dec 2014 #174

So training from a right wing traitor RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #176

So you got nothing, eh? Nothing except insults.. figured as much. n/t X_Digger Dec 2014 #177

Besides which, the film RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #179

SO.. no documentation, given the power of google, bing, etc, that shows 'shoot to wound' training?!? X_Digger Dec 2014 #180

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #181

There's no such thing as a "good shoot" when a fellow human being is killed. The_Commonist Dec 2014 #6

Tranquilzer guns don't work like in the movies KinMd Dec 2014 #7

Ah, I see, so just forget about it. The_Commonist Dec 2014 #8

Ok guy stabs a guy he didn't know in the head, while screaming "I will kill the Jew" KinMd Dec 2014 #9

Yeah, that guy sucked, and should spend a very long time in prison. The_Commonist Dec 2014 #10

He is not going to spend any time in prison because he is dead. LisaL Dec 2014 #11

I don't like it either, most cops don't either KinMd Dec 2014 #12

elephant dart would be lethal. derp. nt geek tragedy Dec 2014 #15

I, too, don't like it when cops kill people, although whether they are local is irrelevant. branford Dec 2014 #20

i'm more concerned about the innocent black men being shot by police samsingh Dec 2014 #26

Maybe you could develop some spider man like web shooting technology snooper2 Dec 2014 #24

omg...don't be silly! Inkfreak Dec 2014 #124

Stop it, you make too much sense! nt 7962 Dec 2014 #85

How do you expect using a tranquilizer... brendan120678 Dec 2014 #16

U mad bro? nt geek tragedy Dec 2014 #17

Because then you'd be back here to complain "Why is this guy in jail?" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2014 #21

+1 freshwest Dec 2014 #34

That argument fits the right-wing phrase "knee-jerk liberal" cosmicone Dec 2014 #22

Why not just wait him out? Bragi Dec 2014 #29

They did wait him out by asking him to drop the weapon repeatedly. n/t cosmicone Dec 2014 #30

So what? Bragi Dec 2014 #33

You live in a perfect world. cosmicone Dec 2014 #35

I don't believe the cops on this Bragi Dec 2014 #36

" fair-minded person using common sense" cosmicone Dec 2014 #40

Derp. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #53

The cops would have waited him out had he chose to go that route. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #49

Thank you. The_Commonist Dec 2014 #31

Derpity derp derp derp. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #57

Bingo! Your last sentence hits it. 7962 Dec 2014 #86

I hate the term. Shooting someone is never good. chrisa Dec 2014 #129

Lol, 'tranquilizer guns'?!? X_Digger Dec 2014 #147

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #154

it seems a difficult problem, but humans easily solve tougher ones reddread Dec 2014 #157

Dosage is the issue. Not enough? Little effect. A smidge too much? Respiratory Paralysis. (Dead.) X_Digger Dec 2014 #169

a million ways to skin a cat reddread Dec 2014 #172

Mriiiiiiiight. *sigh* X_Digger Dec 2014 #173

no you arent reddread Dec 2014 #175

How would you solve it? christx30 Dec 2014 #178

Can't police do anything but execute terrorist suspects? Bragi Dec 2014 #28

Yet another case of the police killing a black man. When will all this madness stop? n/t hughee99 Dec 2014 #32

The only bigot in this story is the assailant branford Dec 2014 #39

+1,000,000 n/t cosmicone Dec 2014 #41

+ 1,000,000 Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #45

If a white guy had done the same thing, do you believe the police would have shot him too? hughee99 Dec 2014 #46

White guy would be pushing up daisies too. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #52

I seem to recall a story about a man who called hughee99 Dec 2014 #92

I think anyone who behaved the same as the assailant would have been shot. branford Dec 2014 #56

Want me to find some videos of cops shooting white guys for you? 7962 Dec 2014 #87

Yes. Hell yes. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #151

Glad I can be of assistance for you! Here ya go: 7962 Dec 2014 #155

I wasn't cheering for the result. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #156

Here's the CNN report, including a video of the incident. branford Dec 2014 #37

"Kill the Jews " Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #38

Another radicalized member of people devoutly committed to peace. cosmicone Dec 2014 #42

We'll never know his motives, will we? Bragi Dec 2014 #43

Are you kidding? branford Dec 2014 #44

You must be joking .. did you forget the sarcasm smilie? cosmicone Dec 2014 #47

What I find amazing... Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #50

The assailant, according to the article, was a severely bipolar man Scootaloo Dec 2014 #54

One of whom is a Jew, which seems not to matter to many. Behind the Aegis Dec 2014 #55

People are quite touchy lately about police shootings Scootaloo Dec 2014 #60

Are you suggesting that the shooting was not justified, branford Dec 2014 #58

The latter Scootaloo Dec 2014 #59

Fair enough. branford Dec 2014 #61

It's the part where he retrieved the knife Scootaloo Dec 2014 #62

I saw the video. joshcryer Dec 2014 #122

I couldn't bring myself to watch it Scootaloo Dec 2014 #131

The vast, vast, vast majority of people are arrested alive. NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #74

I'm going to speculate wildly here and suggest that his motive was a desire to kill Jews. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #82

What people are earning your sarcasm tag, cosmicone? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #51

What's the matter, cosmicone? Scootaloo Dec 2014 #88

Deserved. Lolita46 Dec 2014 #113

A most excellent GOOD SHOT! GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #125

Perfect illustration of "compare and contrast" with the Michael Brown bullwinkle428 Dec 2014 #126

A tragic but neccesary shoot Kalidurga Dec 2014 #153