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3. I realized this to my dismay back in the 80s

Fri Dec 12, 2014, 03:50 PM

Dec 2014

That was when the "ticking time bomb" scenarios started showing up, and I realized that even though the Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment and forcing people to testify against themselves, there's nothing in it to rule out torturing prisoners for information.

I never thought a Supreme Court justice would go so far as to claim it as a point of law, though. We've falling a lot further than I ever imagined.

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Scalia: Nothing In The Constitution Prohibits Torture [View all] DonViejo Dec 2014 OP

It's about morals, you sick fuck. SoapBox Dec 2014 #1

don't forget the Inquisition! hollysmom Dec 2014 #4

He would be love'n that! SoapBox Dec 2014 #11

Prohibition under International Law: Torture in all forms is banned by the 1948 Universal... uhnope Dec 2014 #28

^^THIS^^ freebrew Dec 2014 #34

Is IS a signatory to this treaty? AngryAmish Dec 2014 #39

Is? Isis? Red Mountain Dec 2014 #57

Catholicism says you cannot fight evil with evil Drahthaardogs Dec 2014 #90

Everyone once in a while I forget about my list MyNameGoesHere Dec 2014 #2

I realized this to my dismay back in the 80s starroute Dec 2014 #3

I'm not understanding the notion that "there's nothing in it to rule out torturing prisoners for The Stranger Dec 2014 #6

Because they left a loophole starroute Dec 2014 #48

The "ticking time bomb scenario" is nonsense Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #33

I disagree the primary purpose of torture is to terrorize the populous. Do you want to protest Vincardog Dec 2014 #42

The U.S. populous Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #43

I don't believe it is 1/2. Vincardog Dec 2014 #44

You're right Kelvin Mace Dec 2014 #55

18 U.S. Code § 2340A - Torture herding cats Dec 2014 #65

Bear in Mind RobinA Dec 2014 #68

They're rules monkeys starroute Dec 2014 #70

Yes there is Bandit Dec 2014 #71

Scalia, Alito, and Thomas don't think so starroute Dec 2014 #72

DonViejo Diclotican Dec 2014 #5

Except for that Bill of Rights thing. christx30 Dec 2014 #7

The Amendment refers to Punishment - actions as the result of conviction & sentence. 24601 Dec 2014 #86

If the 8th amendment doesn't leftynyc Dec 2014 #8

Exactly! Raine1967 Dec 2014 #15

If I am not mistaken, Scalia BootinUp Dec 2014 #22

waterboard his ass and give a rectal feeding elehhhhna Dec 2014 #52

He Would Probably RobinA Dec 2014 #69

I suppose it forbids torture as PUNISHMENT. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #16

That this cretin is tasked with leftynyc Dec 2014 #23

Was watching The Newsroom on Sunday christx30 Dec 2014 #63

exactly still_one Dec 2014 #78

Ah, but you see.... Adrahil Dec 2014 #85

Not only does the Constitution prohibit 'cruel' punishments it prohibits 'unusual' ones. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #9

No Derek V Dec 2014 #10

I wish he could be removed from his seat on the court as comments like this are prejudicial imo. nt cstanleytech Dec 2014 #12

I wish he could be handed his seat. mahannah Dec 2014 #19

This from the same one who reasoned "Money = Speech", right? closeupready Dec 2014 #13

How long can a person without a soul live?? TNNurse Dec 2014 #14

Why doesn't that old coot simply retire? His sadistic impulses are becoming far too Cal33 Dec 2014 #17

Just what we'd expect from the Supreme Court Justice who went hunting with Dick Cheney. Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #18

What a complete liar Marthe48 Dec 2014 #29

"The most common lie The Wizard Dec 2014 #67

This is the Koch Court. They don't get to retire without cement galoshes. Still mischief yet to do. freshwest Dec 2014 #89

Seems obvious he's talking about torture by us in other countries. truthisfreedom Dec 2014 #20

Jackass blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #21

Answers Question Not Asked DallasNE Dec 2014 #24

There's no Commandment about children either Marthe48 Dec 2014 #25

Reagan's legacy in more ways than one uhnope Dec 2014 #26

Scalia just doesn't get America. Gregorian Dec 2014 #27

I can't wait for that fucker to die demwing Dec 2014 #30

Scalia is an... Mike Nelson Dec 2014 #31

And in this day, of all days. Deadbeat Republicans Dec 2014 #32

Scalia has been going senile for some time now Gothmog Dec 2014 #35

Absolutely. jwirr Dec 2014 #38

He's lost his legal mind to his partisan politics. herding cats Dec 2014 #66

This is not an isolated incident Gothmog Dec 2014 #74

Conservative catholic og1 Dec 2014 #36

Maybe not you old fool but have you ever heard of the Geneva Conventions? We lead the fight to jwirr Dec 2014 #37

Too bad he just wouldn't die. roamer65 Dec 2014 #40

What is he talking about? ... aggiesal Dec 2014 #41

The US signed on to a treaty against torture, it is now the Supreme law of the land. Article VI alfredo Dec 2014 #45

So, any law after the Constitution is BS to him? sakabatou Dec 2014 #46

What about prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment? n/t cosmicone Dec 2014 #47

Don't let that get in the way George II Dec 2014 #50

He should travel to Geneva and give a lecture on the subject. George II Dec 2014 #49

Article VI, you dumb motherfucker Scootaloo Dec 2014 #51

5th Amendment too: muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #54

Not even the Constitutional ban against cruel and unusual punishment? merrily Dec 2014 #53

Cruel and unusual seems to come to mind (Eighth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 #56

Nothing in the constitution about Tar and Feathering a corrupt asshole either. Thor_MN Dec 2014 #58

I'll bring the tar Plucketeer Dec 2014 #59

Ahhhh, considering you screenname... Thor_MN Dec 2014 #60

LOL... Plucketeer Dec 2014 #82

I'll bring the tar, you bring the feathers and we will trade Thor_MN Dec 2014 #83

Deal! Plucketeer Dec 2014 #84

WHAAAAAAAAAAT??????!!! TimeToEvolve Dec 2014 #61

I can't stand this fucking guy and he is wrong and he likely knows he is wrong. He is so God damn Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #62

Scalia is privy to the Whimsy Amendment. It's only available to the PTB, like himself. valerief Dec 2014 #64

This is part of a larger conservative agenda starroute Dec 2014 #73

guess we should have tortured the ciggie corps for a better 'settlement' Sunlei Dec 2014 #75

Well we sure have had to put up with him and his asinine comments for all these years, and that is a still_one Dec 2014 #76

Not exactly Mr. Scalia. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, Cruel and unusual punishment, still_one Dec 2014 #77

It may not be in the Constitution but...... RationalMan Dec 2014 #79

This man must be removed. n/t 7wo7rees Dec 2014 #80

... Hence, y'know, the rest of the American legal code. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2014 #81

Does the constitution allows a Vice-President to order Torture? n/t AlphaCentauri Dec 2014 #87

millions of lives were NOT threatened yurbud Dec 2014 #88

Perfectly NAZI thing to say. Octafish Dec 2014 #91

8th Amendment, you senile fucker! Odin2005 Dec 2014 #92

The "originalist" forgot about the "cruel and unusual punishment" part. Scalia is as scary as Cheney Hekate Dec 2014 #93