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96. Newsflash! It was Pope Paul VI who said this, not Francis!

Fri Dec 12, 2014, 06:46 PM

Dec 2014

Yes, I'm sure all the theologians who chimed in here with their expert opinion on this oh-so-current news about a report in an Italian newspaper on November 27th will be devastated to know that it's not just 2 week-old news they are gossiping about - the article says it was Pope Paul VI who said something like "one day we will see our animals again in the Eternity of Christ."

Here's what everyone is pretending is 'news', since there's apparently nothing else to talk about in the news today:

http://archiviostorico.corriere.it/2014/novembre/27/Papa_gli_animali_Paradiso_aperto_co_0_20141127_113a59e8-7607-11e4-8dd1-b9af854f838d.shtml

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Farchiviostorico.corriere.it%2F2014%2Fnovembre%2F27%2FPapa_gli_animali_Paradiso_aperto_co_0_20141127_113a59e8-7607-11e4-8dd1-b9af854f838d.shtml&edit-text=

It is said that Paul VI had comforted a child in tears for the death of his dog and said: "One day we will review our animals in? Eternity of Christ."

In other news, Paul VI is still dead. And has been for 36 years.

The question is: why did this non-story, reported in some English language media back in November resurface 2 weeks later? Is it a press release designed to make people think better of Francis? That's usually the case when there's not real reason for some brown-nosing of the Pope.

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Pope Francis tells boy whose dog had died that heaven is open to all [View all] Derek V Dec 2014 OP

well, that's very cool. CTyankee Dec 2014 #1

Open to all except NV Whino Dec 2014 #2

Haliburton has its own Heaven. Ken Burch Dec 2014 #85

They probably have KBR meals NV Whino Dec 2014 #88

So if a dog viciously mauls a child to death... jberryhill Dec 2014 #3

Dogs aren't vicious Derek V Dec 2014 #6

Who said they were? jberryhill Dec 2014 #10

I imagine that these self-raised dogs weren't vicious, then. Orrex Dec 2014 #39

To go to heaven, the dog must accept cheeses. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2014 #19

:) renate Dec 2014 #73

....as their personal flavor? robbob Dec 2014 #87

only good dogs go to heaven :) Sunlei Dec 2014 #21

Yes Shivering Jemmy Dec 2014 #37

Glad to hear there are chilly dogs in heaven. Orrex Dec 2014 #40

Good One! ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #69

By "open to all" he meant all those who are good Reter Dec 2014 #79

The dog isn't acting out of viciousness. Ken Burch Dec 2014 #86

I guess if people can believe in heaven, then why not have animals there? FLPanhandle Dec 2014 #4

Now, there's my idea of heaven; me and my mutt cuddled together for eternity. mountain grammy Dec 2014 #57

People and dogs in heaven wcollar Dec 2014 #62

Heaven wouldn't be heaven without my cats meow2u3 Dec 2014 #93

To put it another way, Heaven couldn't be Heaven without dogs. n/t Orsino Dec 2014 #117

Let's follow the logical progression... brooklynite Dec 2014 #5

Just cut the dog in half, seal the sides with some clear plastic, you have two working dogs snooper2 Dec 2014 #8

A hard core Catholic will tell you christx30 Dec 2014 #59

Not If They Get A Tribunal Dissolution ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #71

I want my pets to go to heaven with me. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #7

careful what you wish for, sometimes they come back- not the same, the ground has gone sour snooper2 Dec 2014 #12

Great movie. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #14

Does this means animals can go to hell too? bigworld Dec 2014 #9

Of course HERVEPA Dec 2014 #11

Nope. Xolodno Dec 2014 #13

There is nothing in the passage you cite about animals. candelista Dec 2014 #16

humans are animals too Sunlei Dec 2014 #26

And a cabbage is a vegetable. candelista Dec 2014 #34

oh I love cabbage, delicious! Sunlei Dec 2014 #38

Read a little bit closer...I think you are looking for the obvious... Xolodno Dec 2014 #30

Pope Francis has said he believes in evolution. Soooo ... Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #78

If thats your view... Xolodno Dec 2014 #91

only if they ride on the roof of the republicans car or are trapped in the republicans factory farms Sunlei Dec 2014 #25

I would say yes and no Bradical79 Dec 2014 #41

Hades has one at the gate, if that's any indication jberryhill Dec 2014 #46

This is actually a big deal. candelista Dec 2014 #15

what is a soul? Sunlei Dec 2014 #27

A fictitious invention rjsquirrel Dec 2014 #103

no I think a soul is the feeling of comfort I had when I see the Pope comfort a child Sunlei Dec 2014 #104

Seems like a scenario would be easy to come up with Bradical79 Dec 2014 #29

No. candelista Dec 2014 #31

What is pan-animism? Bradical79 Dec 2014 #35

Catholic.com: "Animals have souls--and so do plants." bananas Dec 2014 #112

Not immortal ones. candelista Dec 2014 #121

And what of Sparky? Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #17

This is contrary to church dogma Feral Child Dec 2014 #18

Right. candelista Dec 2014 #20

Thanks for the back-up. Feral Child Dec 2014 #22

Wow! Brewinblue Dec 2014 #28

Indeed, Feral Child Dec 2014 #48

I have no issues with you personally. Brewinblue Dec 2014 #109

I believe I've mentioned I'm done Feral Child Dec 2014 #113

With the incidental effect of making a sad kid feel better jberryhill Dec 2014 #42

Entirely incidental. Feral Child Dec 2014 #52

"Perhaps you, as a Believer" what the ever-living fuck? jberryhill Dec 2014 #61

That's arrogant, jberryhill. Feral Child Dec 2014 #84

No, Catholicism teaches that animals have souls and must be treated with respect. bananas Dec 2014 #115

Whatever your links say, they are wrong. candelista Dec 2014 #118

A dog would not need salvation... jberryhill Dec 2014 #23

Forgive me Feral Child Dec 2014 #54

According to THomas Cahill's "Heretics and Heros", hedgehog Dec 2014 #58

You're certainly Feral Child Dec 2014 #64

Thomas Cahill is the author of a series of very readable books discussing hedgehog Dec 2014 #68

Thanks. Feral Child Dec 2014 #80

Glad to be of help. Cahill is rather critical of organized religion himself, hedgehog Dec 2014 #90

Folks misunderstand me sometimes. Feral Child Dec 2014 #101

Dogma that has changed many, many, many times over 2000 years. onehandle Dec 2014 #66

I understand that and am not quibbling. Feral Child Dec 2014 #81

A conversation between the Pope and a child was reported in the news. onehandle Dec 2014 #92

Hmmm.... Feral Child Dec 2014 #100

Try Sshweitzer, Lewis, Augustine or Chesterton LanternWaste Dec 2014 #82

I'm just not interested. Feral Child Dec 2014 #89

Catholic article on the question saying differently: Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #98

Ok, I was wrong! Feral Child Dec 2014 #99

I love this pope! Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #24

He sure is better than the last guy. candelista Dec 2014 #32

Me, too!!! hamsterjill Dec 2014 #55

I'm an atheist and even I wouldn't tell a little kid his dog won't be in heaven. FLPanhandle Dec 2014 #33

That's what makes The Invention of Lying such a great movie jberryhill Dec 2014 #43

Well, it is the Pope's job to think about such things Bradical79 Dec 2014 #45

Why would God deny me the chance to see my beloved companions again, what kind TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #36

You've actually destroyed the concept of heaven, as a matter of fact Orrex Dec 2014 #44

You're bumming me out. TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #50

I find it disturbing that so many people show so little concern about cpwm17 Dec 2014 #106

heaven is now full of holes kiri Dec 2014 #75

1600+ Years of... Xolodno Dec 2014 #94

'Well, it was a nice place, till all the damn dead bacteria started showing up AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #47

So there are more ants in heaven than here. Kablooie Dec 2014 #49

Fundies not liking this one. Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #51

The persistence of supernatural beliefs and imaginary creatures in the 21st century is RKP5637 Dec 2014 #53

Another fairy tale mantis49 Dec 2014 #107

I heard a comedian on the radio awhile back say... KinMd Dec 2014 #56

But my dog was a Protestant. tclambert Dec 2014 #60

And my cats have never accepted Jesus as their Lord and Savior. progressoid Dec 2014 #67

I can't imagine a cat accepting anyone as its Lord. tclambert Dec 2014 #70

Your cat doesn't have to accept anyone as Lord, because he or she knows that he or she is Lord. amandabeech Dec 2014 #119

https://apostchristiannation.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/free-poster-od25z5uyub-popemobile.jpg blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #63

Yeah, I'm hoping to see my late feline and canine family again... 47of74 Dec 2014 #65

"No Dogs In Heaven" Brother Buzz Dec 2014 #72

And fleas? yurbud Dec 2014 #74

My wife said when she was in catholic school the nuns insisted animals didn't go to heaven... many diabeticman Dec 2014 #76

by making up a story? brooklynite Dec 2014 #105

Does this apply to uni-cellular animals, too? Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #77

All Dogs Go To Heaven - one of Don Bluth's best films. Psephos Dec 2014 #83

Black Francis beat him by 26 years or so. AngryAmish Dec 2014 #95

Newsflash! It was Pope Paul VI who said this, not Francis! muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #96

Of course, I INSTANTLY thought of this: Yo_Mama Dec 2014 #97

Hey little boy, let Big Daddy lie rjsquirrel Dec 2014 #102

I'm glad the kid didn't lose his dog under the reign of Benny the Rat jmowreader Dec 2014 #108

Francis didn't say anything about dogs at all; it was Paul VI in the 60s or 70s muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #110

Scroll to the top of this thread jmowreader Dec 2014 #111

Follow the link, and read the correction from CBC muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #114

How many dogs can dance on the head of a pin? mulsh Dec 2014 #116

Chihuahuas or Great Danes? n/t amandabeech Dec 2014 #120