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48. Thank you. I think that a good lawyer probably could get a conviction.

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 06:07 PM

Dec 2014

Did you read about Chemerinsky's proposal that John Yoo be tried for conspiring to break federal law. It's in the Nation. I recommend the article.

Americans would imprison someone who tortured their dog, much less a human being. People just do not comprehend what the torture means in terms of human suffering and for no information or at the most, information that could have been or was obtained through other means.

The information obtained through torture, if any, would have to be checked and corroborated and would be intermingled with so many falsehoods, so much misleading information as to be worthless.

The Germans crushed some of the American and British and French resisters and spies during WWII through the use of torture, but that was a very different situation.

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Majority in U.S. say CIA interrogation methods were justified [View all] alp227 Dec 2014 OP

Brainwashed by the show "24", talk radio and FOX uhnope Dec 2014 #1

k and r riversedge Dec 2014 #20

Do you pay your premiums and subscribe to TV? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #42

Phil Donahue was fired by "liberal" MSNBC bananas Dec 2014 #63

good advice! I've never paid for cable & placed the $50 a month into savings. Sunlei Dec 2014 #77

They shouldn't complain when their kids in the military end up tortured. olegramps Dec 2014 #58

In case you missed it Snow Leopard Dec 2014 #74

not on videos/images posted in public. Transparency, the exposure will make a change & hopefully Sunlei Dec 2014 #79

No, I didn't miss it. Are you implying this justifies our use of torture? olegramps Dec 2014 #83

No Snow Leopard Dec 2014 #86

I weep for my republic. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #2

When nobody is ever held accountable, the logical conclusion was that it must have TwilightGardener Dec 2014 #3

It says something that would quickly get a DUer banned from the Obama group on DU. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #43

President O. was the one who ordered this report done, years ago. Sunlei Dec 2014 #80

LOL I love how you can even twist this into Obama's fault. Drunken Irishman Dec 2014 #82

I don't believe it Faux pas Dec 2014 #4

+1 blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #65

What percentage are aware of all the methods that were actually used? n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2014 #5

or that no incidents were prevented? GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #76

precisely why there needs to be a trial grasswire Dec 2014 #6

And this is why you probably wouldnt get a conviction for torture cstanleytech Dec 2014 #7

Actually, you probably would get a conviction. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #45

The only defendant that has the benefit of doubt is a white man (double that if a right-wing) mazzarro Dec 2014 #55

Do you mean like those white guys beheaded by IS? Flatulo Dec 2014 #60

That's obscene malthaussen Dec 2014 #8

The media is using polling questions to warp the debate...they are as guilty as anyone...they are Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #10

Perhaps they asked if more approved of torture than Congress malthaussen Dec 2014 #33

Do you approve of forced rectal feedings, simulated drownings, beatings, hanging by ropes, etc.? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #34

What does "forced rectal feedings" mean? JDPriestly Dec 2014 #46

Or people were confused and thought they said torture OF Congress. They might approve of that. Shrike47 Dec 2014 #54

This is where "Lesser of Two Evils" thinking takes us...[n/t] Maedhros Dec 2014 #19

Why do you think we have the death penalty joeglow3 Dec 2014 #9

That opinion poll in no way "proves" that torture is legal or required. nt ladjf Dec 2014 #11

Well, nobody surveyed me. calimary Dec 2014 #12

yes well, that's why we have courts and don't try criminals by public opinion. nashville_brook Dec 2014 #13

Thank you. I think that a good lawyer probably could get a conviction. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #48

Then America should hang her head in shame for a very long time NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #14

Anything goes if you're a cop or a torturer. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #15

Yep. Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #18

or a wall street banker, or have a case of 'affluenza'...etc.. n/t iscooterliberally Dec 2014 #26

Even if you're a cop AND a torturer, everything pretty much still goes. (Jon Burge, KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #72

American Exceptionalism on display? old guy Dec 2014 #16

Indeed and exactly right on display at the top of the mountain! mazzarro Dec 2014 #56

The movie fantasy they picture is nothing like the reality. Ash_F Dec 2014 #17

It appears that a majority of assholes need to be water boarded. . . . BigDemVoter Dec 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Dec 2014 #22

Bullshit. truthisfreedom Dec 2014 #23

Yup, skewed or skewered. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #30

I raise your bullshit and put it atop Bullshit Mountain, the question is amazing skewed, a Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #36

Sadly, this is no surprise to me at all. We are in a dark phase for our species. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2014 #24

I read the entire article and went to the Pew website linked in the article, and nowhere.... George II Dec 2014 #25

Here. OilemFirchen Dec 2014 #59

I am not seeing the word torture in there. Ash_F Dec 2014 #68

This is the inevitable consequence of an uncritical public, slumcamper Dec 2014 #27

Just over half of Americans are fucking wrong. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #28

I just do not believe that. That many people are that brainwashed!? Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #29

23% reported they paid much attention to the Senate report....and the question pertained to Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #31

If this is true, Brigid Dec 2014 #32

Headline would be more accurate if stated: Majority US opinion on CIA torture are clueless Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #35

Majority opinion about 13 year old "interrogation techniques" tells us nothing about the now, the Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #37

I agree, and most polls suck one way or another. Yet, Americans should be better Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #39

Most "Christians" support torture Android3.14 Dec 2014 #38

Why Most Republicans are sometimes mistaken for Fascist ! Cryptoad Dec 2014 #40

in these times heaven05 Dec 2014 #41

It kinda makes sense, Trillo Dec 2014 #44

the ends justify the means.... mike_c Dec 2014 #47

A basic tenent of Christianity morality is the ends do not justify the means. olegramps Dec 2014 #84

In other words, we are all fucked, and the majority are stupid, ignorant idiots. longship Dec 2014 #49

This is what happens when you have bullshit on tv ...like "24". L0oniX Dec 2014 #50

It's a steady rythem to desensitize stupid people who might otherwise be more conscientious. Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #53

We have become a country of 'good Germans'. TM99 Dec 2014 #51

Then the majority of Americans SamKnause Dec 2014 #52

Eight Decades Ago in Germany, Hockey Dad Dec 2014 #57

I'm Convinced If It Came Out That BushCo Planned 9/11 & Made It Happen On Purpose That...... global1 Dec 2014 #61

As a child born in the 50s, cleduc Dec 2014 #62

God Damn This Country. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #64

So half the country is SICK. freshwest Dec 2014 #66

Majority of Nazis say SS efforts justified. SansACause Dec 2014 #67

I keep hearing that Republicans will die out soon. Kablooie Dec 2014 #69

this goes to show... Javaman Dec 2014 #70

Who the eff were they polling JackInGreen Dec 2014 #71

hearts and minds librechik Dec 2014 #73

wonder how many torture lovers are also hitters of their own offspring? Sunlei Dec 2014 #75

Garbage in, garbage out Bradical79 Dec 2014 #78

Were ours an honest news media, the majority would feel otherwise. Octafish Dec 2014 #81

On the bright side 16th century methods are viewed as barbaric One_Life_To_Give Dec 2014 #85

bullshit poll by used to be news paper olddots Dec 2014 #87