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BA123

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51. Thank you. And you are right.
Tue Dec 16, 2014, 02:41 PM
Dec 2014

The obsession with Kashmir is something that must be let go of. in fact, the Kashmir issue has mostly becoming some egotistical thing now, not really something that the actual people care about.

Pakistan is by no means innocent in its history with the Taliban, as you have said. Many of the decisions taken by Musharraf at the time were condemned by us. And yes, even in our history books, Zia ul Haq is not painted as much of a 'good guy'.
I simply wished to establish that the Taliban and military are not the same, as proven by their hostility towards each other..but you are right that this may only be what it is now when the dictators are out of the picture...it is a depressing thought.

I would like to point out that, as a middle-class citizen, Nawaz Sharif's government is anything but democratic. i myself was witness to the very huge amount of corruption and vote-rigging involved during his rise to power. it also doesn't boost the confidence of people here, when the man has been accused, and proven, to be a murderer, and yet has nothing to show for it.

I personally do not support Imran Khan or Nawaz Sharif, but in Pakistan when it comes to politicians, there is no good or bad, only trying to choose the lesser of two evils. regardless of where either of the two lead us, it seems that the actual citizens of Pakistan are either unheard, or just brainwashed by patriotic words, due to their illiteracy.

these are just the opinions of a 20yr old though. i know there is much that i, even as a citizen, am unaware of. but you have given me a lot to think about. so thank you.

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my god marym625 Dec 2014 #1
You ain't seen nothing yet. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #5
The Taliban and their Islamist ilk have already said thats their goal. Total domination. 7962 Dec 2014 #15
Oh, I'm shaking in my boots over here. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #17
funny? Piasladic Dec 2014 #22
Yeah...its a big joke to some. Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #26
You think it's funny 840high Dec 2014 #57
Do you think they are doing anything differently cosmicone Dec 2014 #19
You're right. They're stuck in a past of 1000 yrs ago. 7962 Dec 2014 #60
mm, any specific examples from the past? MisterP Dec 2014 #44
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for marym625 Dec 2014 #65
mostly I was thinking of student massacres, but what's been absent since any Dark Ages MisterP Dec 2014 #66
oh. marym625 Dec 2014 #67
People sneer at the concept of evil. geek tragedy Dec 2014 #2
You're damn right !!!!! Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #9
So what is your suggested solution? CJCRANE Dec 2014 #14
I don't know.... Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #24
Our government and our allies fund the extremists. CJCRANE Dec 2014 #29
So far 84 dead leftynyc Dec 2014 #3
Seriously, kids? Damned it all!!! 7wo7rees Dec 2014 #4
Pakistan Taliban 'kill 100' in assault on Peshawar school Bosonic Dec 2014 #6
The death toll has now risen to 126 killed oberliner Dec 2014 #7
126 dead. Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #8
Russian Ruble 70 v. USD ..not sure if related to attack...nt quadrature Dec 2014 #10
I guess the gloves are off now. bemildred Dec 2014 #11
Pakistan Taliban kill scores in Peshawar school massacre MADem Dec 2014 #12
Then what happens... CJCRANE Dec 2014 #13
Much better to just give them what they want? 7962 Dec 2014 #16
Pakistani Military and Taliban are one and the same cosmicone Dec 2014 #20
Not true, though you have a point BA123 Dec 2014 #36
I appreciate the response and there is some truth to what you are stating cosmicone Dec 2014 #47
Thank you. And you are right. BA123 Dec 2014 #51
Thank you for keeping me informed. cosmicone Dec 2014 #53
Hi, and welcome to DU. Glad to have your voice here. closeupready Dec 2014 #58
thank you :) BA123 Dec 2014 #59
Were you wanting to respond to someone else? MADem Dec 2014 #38
No i meant to respond to cosmicone..i'm relatively new here, must have made a mistake. i apologize. BA123 Dec 2014 #39
No problem. Easy to do. MADem Dec 2014 #41
Thank you BA123 Dec 2014 #43
I was responding to 13, there! MADem Dec 2014 #45
What kind of person takes children hostage? drm604 Dec 2014 #18
Seriously ? 132 dead babies and you have to ask ? Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #32
The same people that produced this lovely shirt.. Rhinodawg Dec 2014 #54
It's called a rhetorical question. drm604 Dec 2014 #61
Stop all aid to Pakistan NOW. n/t cosmicone Dec 2014 #21
That would be a mistake Marrah_G Dec 2014 #68
141 dead now and 132 are kids. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #23
How much U.S. money is used to fund the Taliban? Bradical79 Dec 2014 #25
In recent months the Pakistani military has been involved in a heavy offensive against the Taliban JCMach1 Dec 2014 #27
How many children have we killed over the past 15 years. peace13 Dec 2014 #28
It's all part of the same thing CJCRANE Dec 2014 #30
War = Money peace13 Dec 2014 #34
Time to wall off the ME and let them sort it out Bragi Dec 2014 #31
I understand the sentiment, but that seems just a bit over the top. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #40
Except ISIS benefits from western wars Bragi Dec 2014 #48
Well, they're more in SWA. MADem Dec 2014 #42
an actual physical wall or something else? onenote Dec 2014 #46
I'm flexible on that Bragi Dec 2014 #49
"They wanted revenge for the Pakistani military targeting their own families." Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #33
Interesting... peace13 Dec 2014 #35
a political atrocity pettypace Dec 2014 #37
Really? How's that? Bragi Dec 2014 #50
I'm speaking of their motivations pettypace Dec 2014 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author BA123 Dec 2014 #56
Pakistan is the biggest trouble-spot in the world. JDPriestly Dec 2014 #52
India was nefariously split by the wacky wascally brits cosmicone Dec 2014 #62
Full blown...afraid to ask what's coming next...too sad. n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2014 #63
Too horrible for words LeftishBrit Dec 2014 #64
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