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In reply to the discussion: Judge won't release former Alabama Governor Siegelman on appeal bond [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)73. And doesn't the party requesting pardon have to ADMIT GUILT?? I thought that was a piece of the
pie....? Not that it can't ever happen, but the bar is high....
Yep....here it is: http://www.justice.gov/pardon/petitions.htm
(A document that belongs to We, The People, thus no copyright limitations...)
In general, a pardon is granted on the basis of the petitioner's demonstrated good conduct for a substantial period of time after conviction and service of sentence. The Department's regulations require a petitioner to wait a period of at least five years after conviction or release from confinement (whichever is later) before filing a pardon application (28 C.F.R. § 1.2). In determining whether a particular petitioner should be recommended for a pardon, the following are the principal factors taken into account.
1. Post-conviction conduct, character, and reputation.
An individual's demonstrated ability to lead a responsible and productive life for a significant period after conviction or release from confinement is strong evidence of rehabilitation and worthiness for pardon. The background investigation customarily conducted by the FBI in pardon cases focuses on the petitioner's financial and employment stability, responsibility toward family, reputation in the community, participation in community service, charitable or other meritorious activities and, if applicable, military record. In assessing post-conviction accomplishments, each petitioner's life circumstances are considered in their totality: it may not be appropriate or realistic to expect "extraordinary" post-conviction achievements from individuals who are less fortunately situated in terms of cultural, educational, or economic background.
2. Seriousness and relative recentness of the offense.
When an offense is very serious (e.g., a violent crime, major drug trafficking, breach of public trust, or white collar fraud involving substantial sums of money), a suitable length of time should have elapsed in order to avoid denigrating the seriousness of the offense or undermining the deterrent effect of the conviction. In the case of a prominent individual or notorious crime, the likely effect of a pardon on law enforcement interests or upon the general public should be taken into account. Victim impact may also be a relevant consideration. When an offense is very old and relatively minor, the equities may weigh more heavily in favor of forgiveness, provided the petitioner is otherwise a suitable candidate for pardon.
3. Acceptance of responsibility, remorse, and atonement.
The extent to which a petitioner has accepted responsibility for his or her criminal conduct and made restitution to its victims are important considerations. A petitioner should be genuinely desirous of forgiveness rather than vindication. While the absence of expressions of remorse should not preclude favorable consideration, a petitioner's attempt to minimize or rationalize culpability does not advance the case for pardon. In this regard, statements made in mitigation (e.g., "everybody was doing it," or "I didn't realize it was illegal"
should be judged in context. Persons seeking a pardon on grounds of innocence or miscarriage of justice bear a formidable burden of persuasion.
4. Need for relief.
The purpose for which pardon is sought may influence disposition of the petition. A felony conviction may result in a wide variety of legal disabilities under state or federal law, some of which can provide persuasive grounds for recommending a pardon. For example, a specific employment-related need for pardon, such as removal of a bar to licensure or bonding, may make an otherwise marginal case sufficiently compelling to warrant a grant in aid of the individual's continuing rehabilitation. On the other hand, the absence of a specific need should not be held against an otherwise deserving applicant, who may understandably be motivated solely by a strong personal desire for a sign of forgiveness.
5. Official recommendations and reports.
The comments and recommendations of concerned and knowledgeable officials, particularly the United States Attorney whose office prosecuted the case and the sentencing judge, are carefully considered. The likely impact of favorable action in the district or nationally, particularly on current law enforcement priorities, will always be relevant to the President's decision. Apart from their significance to the individuals who seek them, pardons can play an important part in defining and furthering the rehabilitative goals of the criminal justice system.
1. Post-conviction conduct, character, and reputation.
An individual's demonstrated ability to lead a responsible and productive life for a significant period after conviction or release from confinement is strong evidence of rehabilitation and worthiness for pardon. The background investigation customarily conducted by the FBI in pardon cases focuses on the petitioner's financial and employment stability, responsibility toward family, reputation in the community, participation in community service, charitable or other meritorious activities and, if applicable, military record. In assessing post-conviction accomplishments, each petitioner's life circumstances are considered in their totality: it may not be appropriate or realistic to expect "extraordinary" post-conviction achievements from individuals who are less fortunately situated in terms of cultural, educational, or economic background.
2. Seriousness and relative recentness of the offense.
When an offense is very serious (e.g., a violent crime, major drug trafficking, breach of public trust, or white collar fraud involving substantial sums of money), a suitable length of time should have elapsed in order to avoid denigrating the seriousness of the offense or undermining the deterrent effect of the conviction. In the case of a prominent individual or notorious crime, the likely effect of a pardon on law enforcement interests or upon the general public should be taken into account. Victim impact may also be a relevant consideration. When an offense is very old and relatively minor, the equities may weigh more heavily in favor of forgiveness, provided the petitioner is otherwise a suitable candidate for pardon.
3. Acceptance of responsibility, remorse, and atonement.
The extent to which a petitioner has accepted responsibility for his or her criminal conduct and made restitution to its victims are important considerations. A petitioner should be genuinely desirous of forgiveness rather than vindication. While the absence of expressions of remorse should not preclude favorable consideration, a petitioner's attempt to minimize or rationalize culpability does not advance the case for pardon. In this regard, statements made in mitigation (e.g., "everybody was doing it," or "I didn't realize it was illegal"
4. Need for relief.
The purpose for which pardon is sought may influence disposition of the petition. A felony conviction may result in a wide variety of legal disabilities under state or federal law, some of which can provide persuasive grounds for recommending a pardon. For example, a specific employment-related need for pardon, such as removal of a bar to licensure or bonding, may make an otherwise marginal case sufficiently compelling to warrant a grant in aid of the individual's continuing rehabilitation. On the other hand, the absence of a specific need should not be held against an otherwise deserving applicant, who may understandably be motivated solely by a strong personal desire for a sign of forgiveness.
5. Official recommendations and reports.
The comments and recommendations of concerned and knowledgeable officials, particularly the United States Attorney whose office prosecuted the case and the sentencing judge, are carefully considered. The likely impact of favorable action in the district or nationally, particularly on current law enforcement priorities, will always be relevant to the President's decision. Apart from their significance to the individuals who seek them, pardons can play an important part in defining and furthering the rehabilitative goals of the criminal justice system.
The truth of the matter, though, is Obama can do whatever the f0000ck Obama wants, when it comes to pardons. They are HIS prerogative. That said, Congress and the public can make his life MISERABLE if he doesn't jump through the DOJ guidelines to offer pardons.
Remember Marc Rich? There's a reason why Clinton pardoned him at the 11th hour. Remember Cap Weinberger? There's a reason GHWBush pardoned HIM ("If I go down, I'm taking you bastards with me" or words to that effect) at the 11th hour. The pardons that will bring a world of shit on a President are always done at the end of the 2nd term--or after one has lost re-election to a 2nd term!!
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Judge won't release former Alabama Governor Siegelman on appeal bond [View all]
laserhaas
Dec 2014
OP
This is what can happen to any of us if we dare to go against the corrupt autoritarian corporate
geretogo
Dec 2014
#5
That is absolute bull$hit. The federal prosecutor was appointed by Bush and is the primary problem
okaawhatever
Dec 2014
#69
He hasn't filled for a pardon. Although CT and ODS abound on this issue, the fact is that
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#18
Obama sent a White House attorney to interview Siegelman about a possible pardon
okaawhatever
Dec 2014
#68
Um..he hasn't filed for a pardon, or a commutation. And if President Obama is gonna start
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#19
Are you kidding me? The politically connected ex-Gov should be able to circumvent the pardon
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#24
And he's completely wrong--as I demostrate in post 31, using his own links. nt
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#32
Laser....all any DUer on this board need do is run your username in the helpful box provided
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#33
As I've said before....the governor should and can fill out the paperwork. If and when he
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#48
Who did Cheney pardon? I thought he might wait until Bush was out for his Colonoscopy, when Cheney
24601
Dec 2014
#62
Or were you thinking of Bill Clinton and the Marc Rich Pardon? Here's link to information on Bill
24601
Dec 2014
#64
The Truth Need No Disguise (In re Hazel ATlas Glass v Hartford Empire U.S. Sup Ct. 1994)
laserhaas
Dec 2014
#42
I actually think Siegelman deserves review. And he's lucky enough, that unlike the vast majority of
msanthrope
Dec 2014
#46
Holder agrees president not bound by DOJ regs: “The president’s pardon power is close to absolute.”
deurbano
Dec 2014
#35
And doesn't the party requesting pardon have to ADMIT GUILT?? I thought that was a piece of the
MADem
Dec 2014
#73
The guy is pretty much screwed then--I don't think Obama will flout DOJ guidelines with 2 years left
MADem
Dec 2014
#76
That is a bunch of bull$hit. Obama sent a heavy hitter down to Alabama to interview Siegelman
okaawhatever
Dec 2014
#70
All this happened because Siegelman told the world that the 2002 election in Alabama was dirty
Botany
Dec 2014
#21
Persecuted to the fullest extent of the law for the crime of being a successful DEMOCRAT.
Octafish
Dec 2014
#43
He's guilty of being a powerful Dem in a GOP world of power (that's losing control)
laserhaas
Dec 2014
#57
Holder is a Oligarch brown noser. Though it is good rids, don't except better from the lifer.
laserhaas
Dec 2014
#65
Holder and Elena Kagen were just following orders from their boss, President Barack Obama
red dog 1
Dec 2014
#66