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delrem

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1. It's called "the dumbing down of the debate",
Wed Dec 24, 2014, 03:21 AM
Dec 2014

and David Crary is doing it in this article, and you're doing it by "re-tweeting" it or reposting it here.

The real debate is with respect to institutionalized racism and violence, and by definition the police are part of an "institution". By definition the police are regulated, their action is regulated. Some crazy gunning down cops, whether a right wing crazy or jihadist crazy or whatever, isn't the issue except that, of course, anyone gunning down anyone should be stopped.

There's a real problem with overt racism in parts of the US. Not in all of the US, but in parts, and fairly large parts at that. How the police have acted, time after time, to harass, arrest, and kill people who aren't of the right skin color, the right ethnicity, the right religion, is a problem. It's an *institutionalized* problem by its very nature, and can be *fixed* with the right remedies. This kind of problem has been fixed before. Nobody can fix the problem of random Jeffrey Dahmer types being incubated, nobody can solve the problem of random crazy people existing. There's a difference between the two kinds of problem!

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It's called "the dumbing down of the debate", delrem Dec 2014 #1
Question 1step Dec 2014 #8
Yes, I read it. delrem Dec 2014 #10
You have now posted two disjointed replies 1step Dec 2014 #41
"Why is this happening?" Psephos Dec 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Anansi1171 Dec 2014 #3
True, to tar all cops is unjust. DLnyc Dec 2014 #4
Thats why we need concrete proposals. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #6
great, specific suggestions n/t Psephos Dec 2014 #13
Excellent, at the foundation of this all is the thin blue line, the fact that almost all cops NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #28
Hysterical rhetoric vs. bombastic support. Jesus Malverde Dec 2014 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2014 #15
They have been the only victims targeted by skin color heaven05 Dec 2014 #20
Excellent response, wish I had written it, I am a fan. NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #29
BING. O! 1step Dec 2014 #42
Your comment may have some validity Feral Child Dec 2014 #31
it has been absolutely disgusting to watch Skittles Dec 2014 #38
But if the cops get away with it, every time, something is wrong. delrem Dec 2014 #7
definitely Psephos Dec 2014 #12
agreed. delrem Dec 2014 #14
Yeah yeah I know "You hate the police as much as the next guy but..." 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #9
dude, you have *no fucking idea* how much Psephos Dec 2014 #11
"dude" who are you heaven05 Dec 2014 #21
I'm sorry...however even the 'good cops' Earth_First Dec 2014 #16
This is the laziness of internet debates. Everything is simplistic. chrisa Dec 2014 #24
When the police Feral Child Dec 2014 #32
Ain't that swell - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #17
Where's Ted Nugent, he should be there too. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #18
Rehab? Feral Child Dec 2014 #33
+1. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #34
who cares heaven05 Dec 2014 #19
Bon jovi shows again he is a great man and great democrat Township75 Dec 2014 #22
Because nobody is against just the police. They want better police. chrisa Dec 2014 #23
Anyone around here ever stop to think about the two "racist" officers that were murdered Saturday? George II Dec 2014 #25
By a lunatic Feral Child Dec 2014 #35
Do the math! JEFF9K Dec 2014 #26
There is a statistic that proves less than 1% of cops have murderous tendencies? NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #30
Jeff didn't throw out the concept of police officers CLEARLY having murderous tendencies... George II Dec 2014 #36
huh? What in the world? NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #37
Interesting. NOLALady Dec 2014 #27
How brazen. ronnie624 Dec 2014 #44
I bet it's 90% teabagger support. They love them some dead black kids. blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #39
You can be supportive of police -- and still denounce police brutality when it happens bigworld Dec 2014 #40
Police officers do a job that most of us wouldn't dream of doing. NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #43
Yawn tabasco Dec 2014 #47
They sure do. The pure hatred for the uniform on this site is astounding. GOLGO 13 Dec 2014 #45
Because most folks don't buy into "the cops are devil" BS. ileus Dec 2014 #46
pull out the flag and chant usa usa and justify anything dembotoz Dec 2014 #48
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