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17. It's worse than censoring because it's more subtle and many people who would not stand for

Fri Dec 26, 2014, 08:45 AM

Dec 2014

censoring are not even aware of how their news and commentary is continually being filtered and slanted before it ever gets to them.

It's not only Fox viewers either. Many Americans are lulled into a false sense of security about their free country and free press.

I'm not sure what a president can accomplish when repugs control both houses.

With super majority vote requirements and political kabuki, a simple majority has become almost irrelevant. (Media is not the only "estate" that is manipulating us "commoners." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estates_of_the_realm)

However, throughout history we have had some good examples of what a President can do via executive order, for good or ill. Just a few are: While Jim Crow laws were still undisputedly in effect in any state that wanted them, Truman integrated the military with an executive order; FDR intergrated employment by the federal government with an executive order; Reagan officially excluded gays from the military with an executive order; Obama is going to "normalize" relations with Cuba under an executive order, to name only a few. Also, while Presidents need Congress to start wars, Presidents don't need Congressional approval to withdraw troops from a region.

Maybe things like that are not everything, but they "ain't nuthin'," either.

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Sanders: I'll Decide On Presidential Run By March [View all] Hissyspit Dec 2014 OP

Hope his decision is yes. Not a finer person out there. misterhighwasted Dec 2014 #1

I adore Bernie, but I don't think he has a chance. Too bad. mimi85 Dec 2014 #2

This Arcadiasix Dec 2014 #19

People need to consider all the ramifications. There is nothing wrong with taking still_one Dec 2014 #29

They say nothing is harder than running for prez and Bernie may not be in the type of NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #32

I agree. Forgetting about Bill Clintons policies good or bad, he had the perfect still_one Dec 2014 #46

Go, Bernie! It's either Bernie or Elizabeth or another round of bait and switch. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #3

Why not a Bernie/Elizabeth? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #20

or Clinton/Sanders or Clinton/Warren VanillaRhapsody Dec 2014 #26

I don't think either will run, and I don't think either can win. I'll get bashed but.... George II Dec 2014 #45

The assumption that she is our best shot at the WH is depressing. I don't think she can win the merrily Dec 2014 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author mimi85 Dec 2014 #71

I'm good with that. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #48

People who think it's important for Bernie to run, whether he wins or not, might think about merrily Dec 2014 #4

^^^THIS^^^ If we want him, we need to show it. tblue Dec 2014 #8

You are so right about our needing to show support if we want him to run. merrily Dec 2014 #10

+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2014 #27

A 180 has to be done. We all know it. delrem Dec 2014 #5

Bernie has my vote if he runs newfie11 Dec 2014 #6

You are so right. Did you see how Chuck Todd already put him on months ago, merrily Dec 2014 #11

That is the scary thing about elections newfie11 Dec 2014 #14

It's worse than censoring because it's more subtle and many people who would not stand for merrily Dec 2014 #17

I believe watoos Dec 2014 #7

Agree--and so do the polls. merrily Dec 2014 #12

If Elizabeth is still not running by then, I'd vote for Bernie. Cal33 Dec 2014 #36

RUN BERNIE RUN! dotymed Dec 2014 #9

What a convenient philosophy... brooklynite Dec 2014 #60

I hope he runs... RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #13

He has been running as an Indep. and used to run as a DEMOCRATIC Socialist, merrily Dec 2014 #22

I heard from one of my co-workers last week. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #37

Well you certainly don't know the definitions. former9thward Dec 2014 #51

yeah, but they are more socialist like than he wants to believe. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #53

Socialism is the means of production owned by the state. former9thward Dec 2014 #54

That's not what the Funk and Wagnels says. RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #55

Well I don't know what F&W says. former9thward Dec 2014 #56

You simply do not, or refuse to understand. n/t RoccoR5955 Dec 2014 #57

Dictionaries reflect common usage and common usage includings using merrily Dec 2014 #63

All true, Rocco. Social Security and Medicare, also socialistic. Traffic lights and roads, too. merrily Dec 2014 #61

Are you ready to have the top blown off? Earth_First Dec 2014 #15

never been so ready in my life NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #33

I will vote for Bernie LittleGirl Dec 2014 #16

I just finished contributing to Bernie. Hoppy Dec 2014 #18

I contributed much more than I could comfortably afford to Obama because I merrily Dec 2014 #23

Well, I donated as well and I'm glad I did. Lets take a ride down memory lane to 2007... mimi85 Dec 2014 #70

Bernie may surprise some of us gwheezie Dec 2014 #21

People who hear him (and actually listen) like him. Same with Warren. merrily Dec 2014 #24

I realize lots here do not follow polls but winning is not in the numbers for Bernie. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #25

Not sure about that. He knows he will have to run as a Democrat to have a chance to still_one Dec 2014 #31

So, I guess if he says he is running, some will declare him a "liar", because of djean111 Dec 2014 #35

Why are you calling him a liar? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #38

I didn't - I said maybe SOME would call him a liar, since nearly every time someone djean111 Dec 2014 #39

I did not mention liar until after you did. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #40

You are not making sense, or else you do not comprehend the meaning of what I said - djean111 Dec 2014 #42

Who are you arguing with, go back and read what I wrote, interrupt it as you please, Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #47

It's not in the numbers for the now 50 million people in poverty either. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2014 #41

Did the 50 million people vote in 2014, 2012, 2010, and all of the years they have been eligible? Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #66

Did they have the fucking gas to get there? You like blaming victims? jtuck004 Dec 2014 #68

Don't get huffy, if we dont vote out those who destroy assistance to the poor it isn't going to Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #69

Exactly. My husband and I have voted absentee for years. mimi85 Dec 2014 #72

He's in the polls where Dean was last go round Report1212 Dec 2014 #65

BTW, what arevhis current poll numbers? Has he established a 50 state operation to get on the Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #67

Always a straight shooters, one of the last honest individuals in washington still_one Dec 2014 #28

For the love of God PLEASE chickenfairy Dec 2014 #30

I'd like to see Alan Grayson toss his hat in the ring RussBLib Dec 2014 #34

Yes, so would I. Cal33 Dec 2014 #43

K & R !!! WillyT Dec 2014 #44

Go Bernie! I'll vote for you! fbc Dec 2014 #49

Will the Democratic party let him run in their primary? NobodyHere Dec 2014 #50

He would have to register as a Democrat. former9thward Dec 2014 #52

As a Hillary supporter, I say "the more the merrier" brooklynite Dec 2014 #58

and if he emerges Just for Fun Dec 2014 #73

What part of... brooklynite Dec 2014 #75

The more, the merrier. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #59

The 1% own the electronic voting machines Ramses Dec 2014 #64

The same machines that let the Democrats win in 06, 08 and 12? brooklynite Dec 2014 #77

who said the 1% let them win Ramses Dec 2014 #78

I had a better idea...I talked to actual Democrats... brooklynite Dec 2014 #79

the people you talked to are part of the system Ramses Dec 2014 #80

I'd vote for him in a heartbeat! n/t bobGandolf Dec 2014 #74

Run, Bernie!! Please! onecaliberal Dec 2014 #76