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11. Free speech, IMO, should not include outright lies.

Mon Dec 29, 2014, 05:56 AM

Dec 2014

In the best known case involving Fox "lies" as a matter of doing business, the courts have ruled that the FCC rules on "lying" in essence cannot be enforced without infringing free speech. In other words if anybody is working for a public broadcasting organization and if that person is told to "lie" and both parties know it's a lie, the person can be fired for disobeying that order to lie without any consequences to the organization and almost without any regard for the consequences to the whistleblower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre

This is where the US is at now after the Fairness Doctrine was eliminated under Clinton. IMO this was one of the worst things that happened during the Clinton administration.

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Whitehouse.gov Petition Circulates In Response To Fox News (Lies) ‘Kill A Cop’ Chant [View all] mwyn8 Dec 2014 OP

Direct link to the petition to save time 951-Riverside Dec 2014 #1

They are only AT 1,561 Let's get rolling classykaren Dec 2014 #7

Umm.... Why so? LovingA2andMI Dec 2014 #38

And Where Is The Democrat StevePaulson Dec 2014 #2

Haven't been listening to the right Democrats and listening to the right news programs if you have jwirr Dec 2014 #31

Can't say I like this NobodyHere Dec 2014 #3

My take mwyn8 Dec 2014 #6

FCC has no jurisdiction over a Cable TV network... brooklynite Dec 2014 #13

The petiton I read calls for a debate about how to hold those that lie responsible...and the consumer Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #17

Are you kidding? We did enforce the Fair and Balanced Act. classykaren Dec 2014 #8

Fox deliberately misleads the viewer through lies and subterfuge. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #10

Fox is allowed to lie watoos Dec 2014 #12

Let them lie. Let us expose it. Let them be held accountable. If the lie is admitted, as here, then Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #15

There is a deeper concern here.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2014 #4

Agree. Is the purpose of this petition (and post) to repeat the "‘Kill A Cop" meme? hexola Dec 2014 #5

Free speech, IMO, should not include outright lies. Stevepol Dec 2014 #11

Not to to mention a local affiliate has nothing to do with Fox NEws. nt 7962 Dec 2014 #19

fox pays local 'news' to use their name it is more profitable that way. Sunlei Dec 2014 #24

I always thought that tgey should have been forced to remove "news" Lucky Luciano Dec 2014 #28

I signed. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #9

Just signed. Sienna86 Dec 2014 #14

Fascism at its worst Android3.14 Dec 2014 #16

That is not the wording of the petition...burn all the strawmen you want, read the actual petition. Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #27

The wording is mealy-mouthed fascist nonsense Android3.14 Dec 2014 #32

Right. Now progressives are the fascists?? Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #33

You don't usually express such profound ignorance Android3.14 Dec 2014 #36

Apparently someone has not..... Fred Sanders Dec 2014 #37

Who decides "honesty" and "integrity" Android3.14 Dec 2014 #34

Waiting for my e-mail verification but, I signed it also. a kennedy Dec 2014 #18

I will sign, the petition doesn't show-up yet. There is a second petition for Bush/Cheney & has 2.5k Sunlei Dec 2014 #20

I found your petition & signed, Thanks for starting this one Sunlei Dec 2014 #22

Signed n/t Feral Child Dec 2014 #23

Thank you Feral Child Sunlei Dec 2014 #25

Signed Feral Child Dec 2014 #21

signed onecent Dec 2014 #26

Amazing the extent the them-or-us disinformation manipulation wars have reached 90-percent Dec 2014 #29

Many good questions and.... LovingA2andMI Dec 2014 #35

overwhelming majority father founding Dec 2014 #30

Sorry, but we're locking this because it doesn't conform to the LBN SOP. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2014 #39