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15. I live in the St. Louis media market, and I've seen no 'cropped footage'.

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 07:21 AM

Dec 2014

I've seen 3 separate videos, in fact.

In his press conference, broadcast live in KSDK, Mayor Hoskins, who is black, stated unequivocally that a review of the video footage and witness statements ALL show that Antonio Martin pointed a gun at the officer. State Sen. Maria Chapelle-Nadal, one of the most vocal critics of how police handled the Michael Brown case in Ferguson, has said that this case is clearly different because Martin was armed. "That officer not only has an obligation to protect the community, but he also has a responsibility to protect himself," she told USA Today. "Because of the video, it is more than apparent that his life was in jeopardy." http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/24/man-shot-killed-berkeley/20849045/

As a community, Berkley is vastly different from Ferguson: the mayor and city manager are black, and over half of the police force is also black, including command officers.

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Berkeley (MO) officials: Man killed by police had pointed gun at officer [View all] alp227 Dec 2014 OP

For a short time there was a radio station that played "all Elvis, all the time." JEFF9K Dec 2014 #1

All Elvis all the time? NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #2

If so, I will choose waterboarding! JEFF9K Dec 2014 #4

A couple of months ago . . . OldRedneck Dec 2014 #5

RAWSTORY Too billhicks76 Dec 2014 #6

I don't think there is an increase. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #25

If you have a problem with people talking about it notadmblnd Dec 2014 #26

Why complain about my complaint? JEFF9K Dec 2014 #36

I was not complaining. I gave you info on how to solve your complaint. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #38

You had ME fooled. JEFF9K Dec 2014 #65

I'm sure there's a reason for that. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #66

if you're saying something, say it. Scootaloo Jan 2015 #76

Thanks. 840high Dec 2014 #3

No Evidence billhicks76 Dec 2014 #7

How do you know all this stuff? nt alp227 Dec 2014 #9

It's In All The Papers billhicks76 Dec 2014 #10

I live in the St. Louis media market, and I've seen no 'cropped footage'. ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #15

You Missed This? billhicks76 Dec 2014 #41

Where, exactly, is that 'cropped'? ColesCountyDem Dec 2014 #44

I'm Not Contesting Anything billhicks76 Jan 2015 #79

I read the links. ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #80

No Such Thing As A Good Shoot billhicks76 Jan 2015 #81

It's a perfectly valid term. ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #82

Thanks for the information. Figures! n/t Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #13

Wrong billhicks76 Dec 2014 #42

Release The Actual Video billhicks76 Dec 2014 #43

This is the living proof that an indictment should have come from the Michel Brown grand jury. Half-Century Man Dec 2014 #8

I'm ok with this LincolnsLeftHand Dec 2014 #11

We disagree. Half-Century Man Dec 2014 #12

Obviously You Need A Brain Tune-Up billhicks76 Dec 2014 #14

What "cropped video?" Travelman Dec 2014 #20

You are okay with 18 year olds being killed? Live and Learn Dec 2014 #16

There doesn't have to be a weapon. cynzke Dec 2014 #17

The poster did not say they were OK with 18 year olds being killed treestar Dec 2014 #21

The poster brought up the Brown case. Live and Learn Dec 2014 #56

Martin's friend was interviewed by police, he confirmed that Martin did indeed GGJohn Dec 2014 #22

I can't find anything to support your assertion. Live and Learn Dec 2014 #58

Here. GGJohn Dec 2014 #59

Thank you for the link. Live and Learn Jan 2015 #72

That's what keeps bothering me also, GGJohn Jan 2015 #73

The cameras helped a lot in this incident to depict what happened. Live and Learn Jan 2015 #74

It is a sad situation. GGJohn Jan 2015 #75

So you believe Witness #40, do you? - nt KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #18

Vague distrust? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #27

Enjoy your stay! Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #54

Not necessarily that an indictment should have issued from the MB Grand Jury, but that KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #29

Yeah, that soiled everything. Whether the fix was in or not, every new incident will now be suspect Doctor_J Dec 2014 #33

Even if one accepts every word of this 'official narrative' as gospel, it still raises KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #19

Completely false premise Travelman Dec 2014 #23

No, it's not a 'false premise' but then I can tell from the thrust of your remarks KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #24

I just read what he said in response to you and had to check my address bar at randys1 Dec 2014 #28

The words of our colleague Feral Child partially console and quiet me often nowadays: KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #30

sigh....fucking sigh... randys1 Dec 2014 #31

I know perfectly well what a premise is and how it functions Travelman Dec 2014 #32

In response, branford Dec 2014 #34

Given what happened to Michael Brown, who was walking around without KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #35

There are multiple videos of the Martin shooting, posted by DU members, branford Dec 2014 #37

WRT to Myers, that's funny, as eye- and earwitnesses to his shooting had Myers KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #39

Flanery's post indicated he's a conservative Republican. branford Dec 2014 #40

I wasn't aware that I had conceded anything about Myers, and certainly KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #45

Ah, I totally forgot the Myers discussions some time ago branford Dec 2014 #46

You have erected so many straw men one hardly knows where to begin or whether the endeavor KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #48

You're really reaching there dude. GGJohn Dec 2014 #50

If Myers could not identify the officer, and fired only because of a generalized fear of "brigands," branford Dec 2014 #53

You say summarily executed, have any proof of that, other than an as yet un-named "witness"? GGJohn Dec 2014 #47

Actually there were 2-3 witnesses (eye- and ear-), all of whom independently KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #49

Link? GGJohn Dec 2014 #51

Sigh. If I do all the legwork and spend the time to re-establish what was already KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #60

So IOW, the only ones saying this are the family and the lawyer? GGJohn Dec 2014 #62

I just googled Vonderitt Myers Jr. again and the only ones saying that GGJohn Dec 2014 #52

There are always a lot of "witnesses" after these events. branford Dec 2014 #57

There is no way in hell this shooting has been ruled 'justified' by anyone who KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #61

And you have no proof, beyond your obvious bias, that Flanary was operating as some sort GGJohn Dec 2014 #63

You don't give one whit about justice, GGJohn Dec 2014 #64

First, I indicated earlier that the case was awaiting prosecutor review, branford Dec 2014 #67

The link you yourself provided upthread provides more than simply that "Flanary doesn't KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #68

And that proves.....What? GGJohn Dec 2014 #69

Are you kidding or just desperate? branford Dec 2014 #70

OMG!!!! I just carefully re-read this post. GGJohn Jan 2015 #78

Hmmmm, one other point: GGJohn Jan 2015 #71

I have to wonder why stores even bother with these systems. Turbineguy Dec 2014 #55

Store video cameras are there to catch robberies, not police shootings. Travelman Jan 2015 #77