West Bank Attack Targets U.S. Consulate Security Vehicle

[karynnj]

19. The responses in the main forum AND is I/P surprise me

On the one hand their is a among some a kneejerk hatred of Israel where the worst is always assumed and no extenuating circumstances considered. However, there are also some - on the other side of the spectrum - who rarely if ever are willing to comment that the Israeli government is wrong or culpable.

About three years ago, I went to my NJ synagogues event where some AIPAC people spoke to us of Israeli issues. This was a few weeks after a very successful J Street event. After listening to their comments that essentially said it was counterproductive for American Jews to speak on more than one side of an issue -- and that their policy was to take the position of the Israeli government. I immediately said that I could not do that and as I felt I had a responsibility to speak against my own President GWB, I refused to accept that I could not speak against the actions of Netanyahu. (Another person made the better point that AIPAC had NOT sided with non Likud Presidents in the past).

I have heard the argument that it is the Israelis who will suffer the consequences of their decisions -- thus only they should have a say. In fact, only they DO have a say in electing their government. What they are actually pushing for is for us to push OUR government to do what their government wants.

To put it very clearly -- I trust Obama and especially, Kerry -- and I don't trust Netanyahu and Lieberman, Bennett or several other Israelis further than I could throw them!