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RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
22. Although I do occasionally visit this forum
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 01:06 PM
Jan 2015

I am far from a biased ideologue. I like facts. Facts are useful. Opinions based on facts can be examined with reference to the facts.

Are all acts of terrorism committed with a claim of a religion motivations actually solely motivated by a commitment to some aspect of the religion? Are Burma's Buddhist-monk-instigated terrorist attacks against Muslims based on a Buddhist principle or socioeconomic problems resulting from a rapid transition away from a strictly repressive military government? I expect that an expert on terrorism such as yourself should have a researched, fact-supported answer to such a question.

I also wonder what the level of terrorism in the world involving self-identified Muslims was prior to the 2003 American invasion of Iraq? Local religions often figure quite prominently in resistance efforts against invaders. Do you have before and after statistics (e.g., facts) concerning this question? Terrorism throughout the world tends to occur in contexts of recent or active warfare, as well as environments of severe repression of ethnic groups. Militarily weak combatants tend to resort to asymmetrical warfare, such as terrorism. The most intense world warfare during the past 10 years has taken place in the country formerly known as Iraq and its surrounding area. A lot of ethnic-based asymmetrical warfare was unleashed by the full-scale invasion and occupation of Iraq by the United States of America and a few allies. Of course, if virtually the entire population of a region adheres to a particular religious belief, then most terrorist acts committed by people in the region will, simply on the basis of demographics, be committed by adherents to that religion.

Do you have long-term statistics which include, for example, Catholic and Protestant sectarian terrorism in Ireland and the UK? The Aum Shinrikyo 1995 ricin terrorist attack in Japan? State-sponsored terrorism such as killings of Palestinians by Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Gaza and the West Bank? How much terrorism in, say, 1970-1980 was by Muslims? 1980-1990? 1990-2000?

What about relatively atheistic terrorists? Timothy McVeigh, for example, claimed no religious affiliation when he blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. What are the statistics on apparently non-religiously motivated terrorism? You apparently must be privy to such statistics, with your claims. Semi-religious motivations, such as those espoused by many so-called 'Sovereign Citizens' groups, which happen to be the greatest organized threat to United States law enforcement today? Drug-related terrorism in Mexico and Central and South America? Basque separatism in Spain by ETA? The Black Liberation Army in the US in the early 1970s? The Japanese Red Army? FARC in Columbia and the (now ruling) ANC in South Africa?

If you don't have statistics on all of the above, then shut up and learn something before you accuse people of being 'biased ideologues' and claim to know something about a topic you are clueless on.


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I don't know how many of these protesters would abide by sharia law cosmicone Jan 2015 #1
Where is sharia law being "forced down anyone's throats" which is a Fox News theme, by the way? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2
It happens.... a LOT. Burf-_- Jan 2015 #4
But is it really a threat? DVDGuy Jan 2015 #10
The wise speak of what they know. RiverNoord Jan 2015 #3
Some of us speak from personal experiences cosmicone Jan 2015 #5
spot on K&R Burf-_- Jan 2015 #6
And what's yr personal experience? Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #12
I have never posted anything against Muslims as a whole cosmicone Jan 2015 #13
Sorry but you've posted some nasty stuff about Muslims, and some very recently... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #14
I am flattered that you've researched me obsessively cosmicone Jan 2015 #15
Bomb throwers in the Caucasus and the gangsters in Kosovo reorg Jan 2015 #16
I was responding to Violet_Crumble and her specific points cosmicone Jan 2015 #17
You cannot compare India with Germany reorg Jan 2015 #18
Islamization of India is always a threat cosmicone Jan 2015 #30
OK - I'm done. You are an utter idiot. RiverNoord Jan 2015 #24
East Pakistan was the first step towards balkanization of Pakistan cosmicone Jan 2015 #28
I'm glad to see many members here know your vile beliefs closeupready Jan 2015 #33
One person's vile is another person's virtuous cosmicone Jan 2015 #34
That would be the stance of many people who hold bigoted views against minority groups... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #37
You have lost all objectivity. cosmicone Jan 2015 #40
Don't thank me. Thank Google and the 57.5 seconds I had spare yesterday... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #36
You have mastered sophistry and strawman paradigms. cosmicone Jan 2015 #39
Although I do occasionally visit this forum RiverNoord Jan 2015 #22
Sounds much like political parties-- each side rationalizing its own superiority at the expense of.. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #21
also ..this Burf-_- Jan 2015 #7
Question for you. Do you support the anti-Muslim protests in Germany? n/t Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #9
Good on them. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2015 #8
Is there one single German politician advocating for sharia law in Germany? No? Not even one? Ash_F Jan 2015 #11
Would be interesting to see who exactly started that "sharia law fear". I think that line Sunlei Jan 2015 #23
In Germany I'm positive reorg Jan 2015 #26
Thank you, thats very interesting information. American 'media' must have picked it up from there, Sunlei Jan 2015 #27
K&R 1step Jan 2015 #19
Germany should have kicked out David Duke much earlier. They let him spread the hate for a year, Sunlei Jan 2015 #20
Great news: Counter-protests dwarf German anti-Islam rallies pampango Jan 2015 #25
good news. That's why the 'badguys' hate protests and protesters! :P Sunlei Jan 2015 #29
This will make many of DU's Islamophobic Bigot Brigade very unhappy. closeupready Jan 2015 #31
LOLOOLOLOLOLOLOL OH SPLENDID ! Burf-_- Jan 2015 #35
LOL - such as half the people posting this thread who are on my ignore list. closeupready Jan 2015 #32
We drew the lines..... DeSwiss Jan 2015 #38
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