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Sun Apr 15, 2012, 05:20 PM

Apr 2012

back to the original line, I see (statistics show...). The average person does not follow statistical trends. I know that my sister in law was held up at gunpoint in the driveway of her suburban house. That's all I need to know. Gun violence creates a climate of fear in this country-- is my position. And I think it's irrational to carry guns.

But hey, don't worry--you live in a country that doesn't even want to regulate guns. You're safe with your guns. The rest of us are not. Guns are not practical for most people. The people that have them are under a delusion about that. If you're a responsible gun owner, why are you against greater regulation of them? No gun
promoter and defender has ever been able to answer that question...

One day maybe we can have a society where guns are regulated. Until then--it's smart to be fearful, but it takes a terrible toll on society for everyone to be so afraid because of backward thinking about gun regulation..

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Cracker Barrel Shooting: Gunman Opens Fire At Ohio Restaurant; 3 Dead [View all] onehandle Apr 2012 OP

Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2012 #1

She broke up with him at a Cracker Barrel? Atman Apr 2012 #2

Ahem. Do not disparage their bacon. I happen to love it. It's thick and crispy. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #7

the sides at CB are really good also... IamK Apr 2012 #20

What is wrong with you people? AlbertCat Apr 2012 #23

Okay, you opened the door... Atman Apr 2012 #128

I didn't even know CB had pigs in a blanket on the menu Major Nikon Apr 2012 #135

Not MY hash brown casserole! I LOVE the hash brown casserole! nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #27

Probably not :-) madokie Apr 2012 #30

"It's believed that it's one family at this point" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #3

That is terrible Atman Apr 2012 #6

It makes me vomit that anyone, even sick sons of bitches like this one, have access to guns nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #29

"If I cain'ts have'er, NO one's gonner!!" HughBeaumont Apr 2012 #4

That has a name. Shrinks in the U.S. call this, 'family annihilation.' I hate guns. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #36

Ah. Aren't guns just f'ng great? They just give me one hell of a feeling of safety. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #5

My Volvo makes me feel secure. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #32

Sure. That's why bombs are sold at the local supermarket. It's not the bombs, it's the people that Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #38

Actually there a lot of toxic chemicals at the super market that could be used for evil purposes. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #44

Ok, and I have nothing against the sale of metal. Let individuals manufacture their own gun Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #47

Bad news. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #51

Fine. However, every gun murder I read (and there are plenty) is done with guns purchased, made by Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #52

Because the same idea worked on cocaine and heroine ... right? hack89 Apr 2012 #54

I knew it wouldn't be long before the NRA rep would show up. Does defending gun manufacturers Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #60

Explain to me just how your plan will keep guns out of the hands of criminals. hack89 Apr 2012 #61

Does it insult you to be called the NRA? Your only comments to me are defenses of the NRA's Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #66

You have not explained how you will seize all those guns nor how you will pay for them. hack89 Apr 2012 #72

I answered someone regarding that. I told you to read my responses. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #77

So "I don't know" is your final word on the matter? nt hack89 Apr 2012 #78

Dodge. PavePusher Apr 2012 #114

It helps when you are accusing them of things they have no participation in or responsibility for. PavePusher Apr 2012 #113

Commercially available coke an heroin were banned, but it was made legal to produce your own? harmonicon Apr 2012 #102

No - the idea that banning them will make them disappear from American society. hack89 Apr 2012 #103

I would like to know myself Becka2515 Apr 2012 #65

I don't know, but it's ridiculous that we have to live this way, with constant gun murders in this Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #71

immediate issues that come to mind melm00se Apr 2012 #80

I see... Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #91

I'll take 'em one at time melm00se Apr 2012 #96

You're an ace at misinterpreting the 2nd and 3rd amendments to your advantage. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #116

. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #99

" It was meant for a time when...." ...applies equally to the rest of the Amendments. PavePusher Apr 2012 #119

Well said. n/t Psephos Apr 2012 #150

Sorry, Ashgrey77 Apr 2012 #147

I have a right not to feel threatened by maniacs who want to pack heat and are just dying to shoot Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #151

Those people are generally classed as "criminals" and are not legally allowed... PavePusher Apr 2012 #155

Wrong. A gun murderer was just a person with a gun before he killed someone nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #157

Incorrect. PavePusher Apr 2012 #161

And gun sellers know who they are before selling guns to them? Oh please. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #162

Sorry, you made that turn a bit fast for me. What are you stating/asking? n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #164

Look, I'm bored discussing the defense of the right wing NRA. I'm done with this. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #166

Who's defending the NRA? PavePusher Apr 2012 #167

Gun lovers love the NRA, and are likely members of it. And the NRA is Republican nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #176

I think you meant Fourth Amendment, not Fifth. n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #117

In the land of the blind the one eyed man would be king. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #87

How would you defend yourself against someone throwing a piece of furniture at you? Or slapping you Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #89

I asked a couple of questions, responses were avoided. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #98

If you are not scared, why would you carry a gun .01% of the time? Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #118

Enough of the moral elitism. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #159

I've answered all the questions. The NRA supporters have not. nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #163

I feel so neglected. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #168

? Is it not enough to say you defend the NRA? And the NRA is Republican nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #175

Please stop with this "defending the NRA shit". Remmah2 Apr 2012 #177

Are you kidding me? Your views reflect those of the Republican NRA, but I'm supposed to ignore that Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #178

You can make up and believe anything you want. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #180

PS Remmah2 Apr 2012 #181

You left out the vital 1st step: Shred the Constitution when you don't agree with it 24601 Apr 2012 #130

Modify it. That's what the framers meant, and that's been done before. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #133

No doubt the framers meant that changes require a Constitutional amendment. It's less-clear that 24601 Apr 2012 #134

And changes begin with people like me, who are tired of bullshit, such as the Clint Eastwood Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #138

I'm actually gratified that you will not discuss this further because the last thing we need are 24601 Apr 2012 #140

Death and murder, Ashgrey77 Apr 2012 #148

"death and murder happen by the second everywhere in the world" Bullshit. Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #152

Guess what, minavasht Apr 2012 #182

Well, I'd settle for getting rid of that NRA-sponsored 75%. Thanks for making my point for me nt Sarah Ibarruri Apr 2012 #183

Does Ohio have Concealed Carry Laws? ewagner Apr 2012 #8

Oh, they'll be jumping on this soon. Personally, I suspect more people would have been killed if Hoyt Apr 2012 #9

If she had chosen a bar instead of Cracker Barrel to break the news jpak Apr 2012 #13

yup Remmah2 Apr 2012 #33

If only she'd been armed... KamaAina Apr 2012 #106

The purpose of concealed carry is self protection hack89 Apr 2012 #10

To bad the girlfriend wasn't packing, right? Javaman Apr 2012 #14

She couldn't be any worse off then she is right now. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #17

Oh? dead comes to mind. nt Javaman Apr 2012 #50

Reading Comprehension issues? PavePusher Apr 2012 #120

rude problems? Javaman Apr 2012 #146

The purpose of concealed carry is self protection AlbertCat Apr 2012 #25

Don't see the connection between CCW and the private for profit prison system. hack89 Apr 2012 #31

Don't see the connection between CCW and the private for profit prison system. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #39

Since gun violence is at historic lows and steadily declining hack89 Apr 2012 #41

If the CCW laws are being put forward by investors in privatized prisons (Wells-Fargo), Occulus Apr 2012 #63

Mandatory sentencing laws from the "war on drugs" hack89 Apr 2012 #74

And who do you think lobbied Congress for these mandatory sentences? Tsiyu Apr 2012 #82

So who are they? And what exactly is their connection with CCW? hack89 Apr 2012 #83

The silliest games are played by those who Tsiyu Apr 2012 #108

So CCW is nothing more than a cover to make private prisons profitable? hack89 Apr 2012 #110

Why are prisons full? Tsiyu Apr 2012 #131

Drug laws and mandatory sentencing law. hack89 Apr 2012 #132

Too bad she wasn't Bloomberg's niece. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #34

Do they have anti-murder laws? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #12

"Were there armed citizens in the restaurant to stop this? " greiner3 Apr 2012 #19

Where were the cops? Remmah2 Apr 2012 #105

Cracker Barrell gets the 60+ crowd for the most part... IamK Apr 2012 #22

Here's a small part. atreides1 Apr 2012 #26

(d) No one's watching. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #40

And people who kill people follow rules??? marions ghost Apr 2012 #42

The response was to potentially explain why there were no 'friendlies' with guns inside the AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #59

More gunnuts to keep us safe from the gunnuts Major Nikon Apr 2012 #136

Tragic. She tried to leave him in public because she was frightened. CottonBear Apr 2012 #11

I have to ask a question... Javaman Apr 2012 #16

He seemed totally normal at first but gradually became abusive and controlling. CottonBear Apr 2012 #24

Your experience was eerily similar to mine susanr516 Apr 2012 #35

I cannot imagine going through that with a child. CottonBear Apr 2012 #79

Dang, that's sounds scary. Javaman Apr 2012 #49

He had some health issues which were not being addressed. CottonBear Apr 2012 #73

My ex-brother-in law tried to choke my sister when she had papers served. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #21

How awful for your sister. She's lucky to be alive. CottonBear Apr 2012 #28

I've met our local assistant DA. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #43

Abused Women and Family shelters are life savers. Your assistant DA is doing good work. CottonBear Apr 2012 #75

Cool story, bro. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #37

Good thing she had that gun. Lasher Apr 2012 #58

She learned well in the Air Force. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #84

A brave veteran. Lasher Apr 2012 #127

Damn right! nt Remmah2 Apr 2012 #158

An important story. Thank you. nt rrneck Apr 2012 #55

You are welcome. CottonBear Apr 2012 #76

Five cops shot in New Hampshire earlier today TheCowsCameHome Apr 2012 #15

Don't worry, all those drug suspects had their CCW's. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #18

Just another senseless death by gun in America marions ghost Apr 2012 #45

The ironic thing is that gun violence is at historic low and you have never been safer hack89 Apr 2012 #46

Your stats, my stats, we all got stats... marions ghost Apr 2012 #53

1992 - 24,703 murder and nonnegligent manslaughter deaths. 2010 - 14,748 deaths hack89 Apr 2012 #56

I take the Public Health approach... marions ghost Apr 2012 #62

When you can quantify the number of violent crimes or deaths prevented hack89 Apr 2012 #69

the problem is that you gun-promoters want guns to be available to every hot headed asshole in theUS Kolesar Apr 2012 #112

Cites to evidence, please. n/t PavePusher Apr 2012 #121

And yet gun violence is at historic lows and still going down. hack89 Apr 2012 #123

Ha! You have no answer, hack ... eom Kolesar Apr 2012 #125

Answer for what? You didn't ask a question. nt hack89 Apr 2012 #126

What is it, only 14,000 killed last year? Yay. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #90

Actually it was 8,775 hack89 Apr 2012 #95

What the hell is wrong with some of you? RC Apr 2012 #48

Aw come on... marions ghost Apr 2012 #57

But there is the issue in a nut shell - "level of violence we are forced to live with" hack89 Apr 2012 #64

Go to a place where gun violence is not common marions ghost Apr 2012 #142

Like my home town? One murder in 12 years? hack89 Apr 2012 #143

the people I know do not live in poor urban areas marions ghost Apr 2012 #144

All I know is that violence in America has been constantly declining hack89 Apr 2012 #145

OK marions ghost Apr 2012 #153

So irrational fear of rare events based on personal experience hack89 Apr 2012 #156

Sorry too many negative experiences involving guns marions ghost Apr 2012 #165

I have no fear of more gun control - it is a dead issue. hack89 Apr 2012 #169

I think you know marions ghost Apr 2012 #171

But you don't get it - violence is declining. It is at historically low level and still going down. hack89 Apr 2012 #172

So many claims and accusations... PavePusher Apr 2012 #173

"One day maybe we can have a society where guns are regulated." Remmah2 Apr 2012 #179

Yeah, I'm sure you will appreciate the humor nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #68

humor is a way of coping with horror marions ghost Apr 2012 #141

I saw the thread title nobodyspecial Apr 2012 #67

Cracker Barrel and The Olive Garden are just part of this board's culture. JVS Apr 2012 #70

But gun violence is at historic lows. Statistically, this didn't really happen. Crunchy Frog Apr 2012 #129

Hey, leave him alone - he was standing his ground! polichick Apr 2012 #81

How long before the NRA-GOP argues that divorce by gun is a Constitutional right? onehandle Apr 2012 #85

I wouldn't put anything past them - so sad how those two organizations have... polichick Apr 2012 #86

Divorce by gun? Remmah2 Apr 2012 #88

The most important thing in all this is that Cheap_Trick Apr 2012 #92

Word to the gun nuts - bitchkitty Apr 2012 #93

Thank you for calling us out. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #100

I"m sure that those who are mourning the death of an innocent bitchkitty Apr 2012 #111

Some people don't have a clue. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #160

Every time there is a tragedy involving guns, you all rush to bash "gun nuts" hack89 Apr 2012 #101

It's called moral highground. Remmah2 Apr 2012 #104

Please provides cites to anyone supporting this criminal. PavePusher Apr 2012 #122

First time I saw a Cracker Barrel, it had a burning truck in the parking lot NickB79 Apr 2012 #94

top three stories on CNN.com under "latest news": renate Apr 2012 #97

If our gun laws are so ineffective hack89 Apr 2012 #107

50% decline while a major gun control measure was allowed to expire to boot NickB79 Apr 2012 #115

Well, to be honest, it is not like assault weapons were ever a real threat to public safety hack89 Apr 2012 #124

No kidding. Dr_Scholl Apr 2012 #137

She knew Catherine Vincent Apr 2012 #109

Riddle me this - police arrived WHILE she was on the phone with 911. Ruby the Liberal Apr 2012 #139

You have an armed person inside a public place. LisaL Apr 2012 #149

This is so sad. What's the solution ? steve2470 Apr 2012 #154

If your option b involves vast improvements in mental health care and attitudes toward women... slackmaster Apr 2012 #170

it does, yes nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #174