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donna123

(182 posts)
70. They need to raise the minimum wage to $15
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 01:15 PM
Jan 2015

at least. That will help a lot of people, not government benefits till the end of time. I read an article about people getting disability and how they have no incentive to try to work because if they do, they will end up with less because a crap minimum wage job will not give them as much as disability does, so who can blame them? I see fast food workers who are very nice, I am not sure I would be so pleasant if I had their job, and I support them getting raises. I can pay more and I would expect others can too if wages rise.

Having said this, I anecdotally see people who seem to take advantage of the system. I was in the market and saw a woman and her young daughter using what looked like a welfare card and they were buying expensive prepared foods, not milk, bananas, etc, and when I see something like that, it doesn't sit well with me. I know of a situation, an illegal immigrant, an older woman, who was living in the hospital because she needed dialysis but she could not get it if she left the hospital. She had family but they could not afford to help her, who could pay for those hospital bills? The situation was so crazy, it would have obviously been cheaper for taxpayers to set up dialysis for her and let her leave the hospital. Social workers tried to help her but could not find a way around the situation. Yes, it is horrible to say throw her out as she would die without dialysis but I think these are some of the things that make people angry. I also know of an older woman who gets all sorts of benefits, food, housing, healthcare, she is also an immigrant. She never worked in the US so she never contributed to this country, she has 5 children, at least 3 who are pretty well off, and who could support her, but because of the generosity of the state she lives in, she gets all this stuff because she does not have any assets, no pension, no money. She brags about all she gets for free because culturally, this is something people like her are proud of, rather than ashamed of, I guess, which I find weird.

It makes me angry to think my taxpayer dollars are going to some of these things. I am all for helping people who are struggling, especially women who do not get paid as much as men and especially those with children. This other stuff though, some states, I think their policies are too generous. I don't mean for this to be anti-immigrant either, the first example, they were American, white. It might seem strange to post this on this forum. I cannot stand fox news, I feel cops are too trigger happy and feel our justice system is flawed and is biased against black people, but I am feeling this way about this issue.

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In my lifetime I have known many very wealthy people. Mr.Bill Jan 2015 #1
I would consider myself very wealthy OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #12
Sounds like you're doing it right. Mr.Bill Jan 2015 #13
I think I have OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #14
I'm retired now Mr.Bill Jan 2015 #15
fuck these 54%. For those with money who understand that roguevalley Jan 2015 #39
Thank you. Mr.Bill Jan 2015 #41
Agree but OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #67
I agree. Mr.Bill Jan 2015 #74
Absolutely OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #85
You always have to take care of wealth; knowledge takes care of you. pokerfan Jan 2015 #33
Words of Good seveneyes Jan 2015 #65
How did you see a plaque on a communication satellite? yurbud Jan 2015 #79
The rich get things "for free" all the time.. whathehell Jan 2015 #57
Don't forget the corruption that wealth christx30 Jan 2015 #66
Oh yes, and, in fact, even without blatant corruption whathehell Jan 2015 #68
I was reading a post today on christx30 Jan 2015 #84
As a nine-nine-percenter myself, I will say that I appreciate your perspective mazzarro Jan 2015 #59
I'm sorry, but I must take issue with something you've said.. whathehell Jan 2015 #69
it sounds like you built the wealth yourself. I bet a lot of those polled inherited it yurbud Jan 2015 #78
Our poor just aren't poor enough. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2015 #97
Some of them have cell phones! KamaAina Jan 2015 #102
Sometimes I wonder about that. leftyladyfrommo Jan 2015 #103
Everyone does well when everyone does well. The rich are oblivious to the needs of those struggling YOHABLO Jan 2015 #2
Oh yes! Turbineguy Jan 2015 #3
Time for a minimum guaranteed income? Trillo Jan 2015 #4
We already have one. For bank$ters. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #23
Time for asset-stripping the Oscenely Wealthy Demeter Jan 2015 #61
As the workplace shifts away from skilled working class jobs, we may need one. n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #71
Wealthiest Americans are assholes Orrex Jan 2015 #5
Yeah, and I'm sure wealthy NON-Americans, like Rupert Murdoch, perhaps are just brilliant.. whathehell Jan 2015 #64
Murdoch has been a US Citizen since 1985 n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #72
Did he renounce his Australian citizenship, or is his dual? whathehell Jan 2015 #75
Oh, completely agree... I just failed to suppress my pedantic tendencies. :) n/t Adrahil Jan 2015 #76
Okay, no problem! whathehell Jan 2015 #89
Well, since the OP didn't comment on wealthy NON-Americans, I figured I could leave them out Orrex Jan 2015 #80
Really? Are they sure? Are they really, really sure? onehandle Jan 2015 #6
+1 bravenak Jan 2015 #11
Thank you. jwirr Jan 2015 #21
We'll need more than three. JEB Jan 2015 #29
+2 Pharaoh Jan 2015 #32
+ 3 eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #52
Perfect lake loon Jan 2015 #60
Then they must want to be poor, and should advocate for a much higher tax rate on the wealthy. Scuba Jan 2015 #7
Thanks to our fair and balanced media, the poor have become scapegoats for the corrupt rich who whereisjustice Jan 2015 #8
Any one of them is welcome to trade places with me. Downwinder Jan 2015 #9
Simple fix: Sell all that thou hast, and give to the poor. Qutzupalotl Jan 2015 #10
Just curious, who are the "wealthiest americans"? hughee99 Jan 2015 #16
"This report is based on Pew Research Center data collected as a part of the center’s American jtuck004 Jan 2015 #20
Based on this, it seems like a a good bit of what they're calling "rich" isn't what hughee99 Jan 2015 #40
Interesting. Both Democrats and Republicans mixed up in the "most" or "more" financially secure jtuck004 Jan 2015 #46
Happiness is a great wealth, I would value my friends and family above that of Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #17
What qualifies as poor? davidthegnome Jan 2015 #18
+1 shireen Jan 2015 #26
Attachment of Wages for Students loans are subject to two FEDERAL restrictions happyslug Jan 2015 #36
Catch 22 trap CountAllVotes Jan 2015 #49
These people are as stupid as the people who vote against themselves. I am calling for one of jwirr Jan 2015 #19
+1 nt Live and Learn Jan 2015 #48
I've done 7 years of solo caretaking and it feels like it took 20 years off of my life. adirondacker Jan 2015 #50
My little lady is now in a foster home but I am going through the aftereffects of caretaking without jwirr Jan 2015 #63
a quote that says it all DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #22
They sound like they are from a Lucky Ducky cartoon. daleo Jan 2015 #24
Especially this one Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #34
That nails it. daleo Jan 2015 #92
How many of the rich see no problem with the navy building a bigger aircraft carrier? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #25
It depends on where their investments lie... NancyDL Jan 2015 #28
Some have been obsessed with the idea that the Third World is going to rise up against them.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #37
You could argue . . . Brigid Jan 2015 #38
People used to earn a middle class income from a factory job.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #42
Absolutely. Unions and New Deal policies made it possible from the 50's thru the early 80's whathehell Jan 2015 #73
I was in Michigan in the 70s when the UAW was at it's peak.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #82
Amazing...My husband's dad worked for Chrysler. whathehell Jan 2015 #88
The unions were often infiltrated by people who could be bought.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #91
To quote the great Dr. Edward de Bono... NancyDL Jan 2015 #27
Most of these so called very wealthy people onecaliberal Jan 2015 #30
Hey, now at least we know the % of rich people that are Republican assholes. AZ Progressive Jan 2015 #31
yep,,,,, Welfare Easy street... Cryptoad Jan 2015 #35
Assholes. SoapBox Jan 2015 #43
Talk about "without doing anything in return" tblue Jan 2015 #44
Romney comes to mind. AngryDem001 Jan 2015 #45
Has he ever told us how many jobs that "job creator" has created? IronLionZion Jan 2015 #56
A lot of them actually think what they do is "work" IronLionZion Jan 2015 #55
totally out of touch, imthevicar Jan 2015 #47
The poor may be entitled to government benefits, but those benefits do not allow them to get ahead. Vinca Jan 2015 #51
I Think It Is Ignorance RobinA Jan 2015 #96
Those wealthiest Americans should trade places and see IronLionZion Jan 2015 #53
In the study being discussed, the "wealthiest" Americans aren't just the 1%, hughee99 Jan 2015 #98
If they really believe that, then by all means, make them put their money where their big mouths BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #54
This illustrates pretty clearly a lack of empathy & self absorbtion KittyWampus Jan 2015 #58
Raise the minimum wage and millions less will need Gov. benefits to survive. Sunlei Jan 2015 #62
They need to raise the minimum wage to $15 donna123 Jan 2015 #70
Anecdotal Bullshit RunInCircles Jan 2015 #83
Bananas are usually 0.69/lb where I live donna123 Jan 2015 #93
sure, because spending hours in line, in offices, filling out paperwork, trying to meet niyad Jan 2015 #77
The Rich Man and Lazarus 47of74 Jan 2015 #81
Living in the wasteland of the free ashling Jan 2015 #86
Scrooge is alive and well du_grad Jan 2015 #87
"poor people today have it easy because they can get government benefits airplaneman Jan 2015 #90
Yup. Spending all day driving their fancy cars and eatin steak and lobster off those snap benefits. adirondacker Jan 2015 #94
If those who think that could only walk a mile in a poor man's shoes tawadi Jan 2015 #95
Those Wealthy Who Believe this are Fucken Fox News Addicts or Totally Uninformed Jerks Stuart G Jan 2015 #99
Well isn't that a huge collective maxrandb Jan 2015 #100
The poorest Americans say... bravenak Jan 2015 #101
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