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politicman

(710 posts)
39. More like different people interpreting the religion to suit their cultural needs.....
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:55 PM
Jan 2015

Except talk to a terrorist or an extremist and they will tell you that they consider normal or moderate Muslims to be as much of a non-believer as a Christian or Jew, this they find to acceptable to target and kill these fake Muslims.


On the flip side, talk to a normal or moderate Muslim and they will tell you that the extremists and terrorists are non-believers and as such are the real fake Muslims.


So in effect you are left with 2 kinds of people that call themselves Muslims and each group believes the other is a fake Muslim, or a non-believer and as such shouldn't be referred to as a true Muslim.


So again, which one is the true Muslim, is it the terrorist/extremist or is it the normal/moderate Muslim?


Or maybe you can stop thinking in black and white terms and think outside the box for once, and understand that Islam is a religion that at its basic level is a Jihad that every believer fights in their heart to refrain from sinning, and it does not matter how many times one refers to himself as a Muslim, the proof of the pudding that determines whether someone is truly a Muslim is how well they abide by the tenets of Islam.


But to understand this concept, you need to keep in mind that the tenets of Islam can be interpreted in different ways by different peoples.

To illustrate this I ask you to look at how the different sects of Islam came about. All it took was one person or a small group of people to change the way that certain passages of the Koran should be interpreted, thus you ended up with the 2 different sects of Sunni and Shia who each believe the other is not a real Muslim. Now think of how many sects and beliefs and interpretations there are among Muslims, and you can see quite easily how one set of peoples beliefs and interpretations shouldn't be referred to as the true representation of the Islamic religion.

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many here confuse them also uhnope Jan 2015 #1
Unbelievable. People are being blinded by the inability to seperate the usurpers of a religion from Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #2
Sadly, very sadly believable to me. RiverNoord Jan 2015 #22
Is a terrorist a true Muslim or is the one that denounces the terrorist a true Muslim????????? politicman Jan 2015 #29
The error is in the expression "a true Muslim." Igel Jan 2015 #35
More like different people interpreting the religion to suit their cultural needs..... politicman Jan 2015 #39
I would have voted to Leave It Alone 840high Jan 2015 #21
Watch the video. His brother is eloquent and speaks for many LuckyLib Jan 2015 #3
Where are these voices of reason on American TV? France and Germany are doing everything right Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #4
are you sure they are not there? uhnope Jan 2015 #10
I watched the video inanna Jan 2015 #23
The difference is the laws that many Muslim countries have. Thats the giveaway. 7962 Jan 2015 #5
k&r Burf-_- Jan 2015 #6
What are you talking about? What nation is "sanctioning" this attack? Name one of these many nations. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #7
Where did I say any nation sanctioned the attack? You used quotes, did you READ the post? 7962 Jan 2015 #11
sigh.... Burf-_- Jan 2015 #16
Saudi Arabia is one of the worst. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #20
Thanks for bringing that up. Perfect example of what I mean 7962 Jan 2015 #24
I am so sick of people like you twisting reason to its breaking point to justify your politics. RiverNoord Jan 2015 #28
You're having a hard time understanding the post. I'll try to explain 7962 Jan 2015 #31
No - I understand your posts perfectly. RiverNoord Jan 2015 #51
Well, at least you're impressed with yourself aren't you? 7962 Jan 2015 #52
fred.... Burf-_- Jan 2015 #13
Sam Harris is your go to guy? Go for it. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #17
and Niel Shenvi is yours...lol Burf-_- Jan 2015 #19
So then, do we condemn every follower of Islam? Including the policeman in the OP? nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #8
That is the message, it is a joke of a message. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #12
I did not condemn every follower of Islam in my post 7962 Jan 2015 #26
Sure there's a difference, just not as much of one as people like to believe. nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #45
Agreed 7962 Jan 2015 #46
excellent points. a blogger is now being blogged and put in prison in one of the arab countries samsingh Jan 2015 #14
Good post. 840high Jan 2015 #18
The policeman and his family are in France. What's yr point? Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #25
Read my post. Very simple. Those people are not who I am talking about. nt 7962 Jan 2015 #27
I read it. Seeing yr not talking about the OP, was there any purpose other than to derail? Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #30
Many times here the post HAS to be simple. 7962 Jan 2015 #33
Simplistic, not simple. btw, I added something to my post you just replied to... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #34
Yet they continue to support those who foment the extreme laws 7962 Jan 2015 #36
'They' as in most Muslims? Again, what does that have to do with the French family of the cop? Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #38
And what country are YOU from? 7962 Jan 2015 #40
Don't like yr own logic when it's turned back on you, I see... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #48
And what country are YOU from? 7962 Jan 2015 #49
I'm from a small and obscure country called Murdochistan... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #53
Yet, I still always wanted to visit there..... 7962 Jan 2015 #54
Travel tips for if you ever do - avoid the Murdoch press and cricket games... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #55
Its not like the Muslim populations get to decide which laws they have to follow........ politicman Jan 2015 #32
Oh yes, we're very supportive of Indonesian Muslim led countries; or Iran, etc. Right. nt 7962 Jan 2015 #37
'Indonesian Muslim led countries'?? Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #41
Well, yes, but in name only 7962 Jan 2015 #43
No, not in name only. Using that sort of thing, the US is only a secular democracy in name only... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #47
wow, is that the best you could come up with, hahaha politicman Jan 2015 #42
As I said, the only way to stop it is from within. 7962 Jan 2015 #44
You know who scares me the most? Bragi Jan 2015 #9
so is the anger placed against those who killed his brother in the name of religion samsingh Jan 2015 #15
Christians blackcrow Jan 2015 #50
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