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In reply to the discussion: Slain policeman’s family warns against confusing extremists with Muslims [View all]RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)I definitely do not require your 'explanation,' as your stances are quite clear. You are very much pro-Likud modern Israel and anti-Islam everywhere. You are willing to use twisted mis-translations such as 'calling for the elimination of Israel,' as support for your perspectives. I also believe that anti-'apostasy' laws are utterly wrong - but that doesn't mean that you and I are right about this. These laws are simply means of social control by authorities, and every country has those. By the way, the following verses are from the King James Bible - Deuteronomy 13, verses 6-10:
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Of course, it's also part of the Torah. The concept of apostasy (the term is of Greek derivation) originated with Judaism/Christianity, not Islam.
'There are no anti-gay plots being carried out across the world'? Are you really that stupid? How much terrorism have gays suffered over the years, and how much continues? Lots. Russia, a Christian majority nation, has outlawed virtually any form of expression that suggests that being gay is OK. Concurrently, there have been organized, video recorded brutal attacks on gay men throughout the country, which are, by their very nature, 'anti-gay plots.' Do some research. It's ugly.
Finally, are you against Israel's nearly continuous annexation of land seized in several of its wars? This is being done in direct contravention to the Geneva Conventions and the United Nations treaties on the treatment of land occupied as a result of warfare. We are signatory to these conventions and treaties. Are you as repulsed by such open, decades-long violations of internationally established human rights as you are by anti-apostasy laws in some Muslim countries? I already know the answer, of course. By your statement 'You're having a hard time understanding the post,' you strongly imply an intellectual basis for your arguments, which someone like myself, who is, frankly, wiser and more aware of many aspects of human nature than you are, is unable to comprehend. You're not only ignorant - you're condescendingly ignorant, which is actually an effective strategy of criticism employed by many of the worst of the Republican political party.