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JonLP24

(29,929 posts)
69. I knew what you were saying
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jan 2015

I didn't believe you did say ignore gun owners, no focus on demographics & specific groups in certain areas where violent crime is concentrated. I assumed the implication in the word focus (based on context) but ignore gun owners wasn't it. I took it as a dragnet style approach(not necessarily that, just the implication) to solve a problem by going after a group "gun owners" who we can all agree, not all gun owners commit crimes with guns but instead apply it to "demographics" which would alienate the people in those demographics that don't commit gun violence which alienate people which also had irony in to solve gun violence don't alienate gun owners, focus on demographics instead.

I wasn't talking solutions, just chipping away what was behind demographics which is a group defined by whatever it is, gun owners is a demographic for example, so you had an odd way of saying don't lump gun owners together.

Solutions depend on the problem. If someone had a problem or wanted to make it illegal for anyone owning guns, doesn't matter who, then disarming law abiding legal gun owner works. There is always a threat though, maybe 0.0001% - whatever but the odds are there. The law abiding legal gun owner who then commits a crime with his legally owned gun, that person was certainly a threat to society.

I didn't catch the problem or what it is in a thread with subthreads all over but this is to a story in Moscow, Idaho. If a problem relates to preventing something that happened in Moscow, I don't think focusing on demographics is going to help stop another Moscow in a place like Moscow.

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I'm going to both of those hospitals next week to do blood drives. Regardless of how many brewens Jan 2015 #1
k&r Liberal_in_LA Jan 2015 #49
I hate guns. tblue Jan 2015 #2
Fine, don't own any. GGJohn Jan 2015 #3
Way to celebrate murder! You can redeem your points with Wayne at the next conclave. n/t xocet Jan 2015 #4
who is celebrating, that is just sick Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #7
Every gun homicide is a 2nd Amendment celebration. xocet Jan 2015 #15
what "refuses sensible regulation"? Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #16
There was nothing sarcastic about my comment. GGJohn Jan 2015 #17
There was something JonLP24 Jan 2015 #64
Exactly gopiscrap Jan 2015 #57
Wow!!!! GGJohn Jan 2015 #11
Wow!!! Miss the point much? n/t xocet Jan 2015 #12
The only one missing the point here is you. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #18
Way to keep the celebration going.... n/t xocet Jan 2015 #20
Still missing the point, keep going. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #21
xocet gets the point. i get the point. you apparently do not. samsingh Jan 2015 #55
No, you don't. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #71
Bullshit, get rid of them altogether! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #61
Not going to happen. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #70
Remember kids . . . guns dont kill people Spooky69 Jan 2015 #5
no, gun humping paranoid assholes do Skittles Jan 2015 #6
Well put gopiscrap Jan 2015 #58
Spot on Skittles madokie Jan 2015 #62
that is correct Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #8
Mental Problems beemer27 Jan 2015 #9
We could work to change the culture. This gun-loving, gun-adoring culture. Demit Jan 2015 #10
Or we could have decent health care for all. Nt hack89 Jan 2015 #13
Why or? Demit Jan 2015 #14
yes do both Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #19
No forcing. Just looks of disgust when anyone parades their adoration of guns around. Demit Jan 2015 #23
well that is not what most Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #25
Personally I would go for the violent criminal culture hack89 Jan 2015 #22
No, the whole culture of gun worship. Demit Jan 2015 #24
most firearms owners Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #26
Well if you don't worship guns then you won't be affected by Demit Jan 2015 #30
what crap is that Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #32
Triggers have to be pulled? What about all those stories of guns going off Demit Jan 2015 #36
most cases yes the triggers have been pulled Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #44
Is drug and gang violence due to gun worship hack89 Jan 2015 #27
You want to talk about drug & gun violence. I don't. Demit Jan 2015 #28
So reducing gun deaths is not your real focus? hack89 Jan 2015 #29
I think reducing gun worship will reduce the number of guns. Demit Jan 2015 #33
If you understood the demographics of gun violence hack89 Jan 2015 #35
I don't want to demonize gun ownership. Demit Jan 2015 #37
If we are not talking about the people that are actually killing people hack89 Jan 2015 #40
I know the answer Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #34
You're frustrated, aren't you? Demit Jan 2015 #38
well please give me the same respect Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #39
The point I am pushing is for people to discourage gun worship. Demit Jan 2015 #42
Sure sounds like it in your posts Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #43
Okay. I don't believe all gun owners are gun worshippers. Demit Jan 2015 #47
It is but I have never seen it Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #48
i think you're completely correct in what needs to be done. samsingh Jan 2015 #56
If you own a gun you're part of the problem! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #59
We know the demographics? JonLP24 Jan 2015 #65
A tiny fraction of the population is responsible for violent crime hack89 Jan 2015 #66
We know who the demographics are JonLP24 Jan 2015 #67
Most gun owners will accept new gun laws hack89 Jan 2015 #68
I knew what you were saying JonLP24 Jan 2015 #69
Yeah, that really worked in France. former9thward Jan 2015 #45
shall we compare France gun deaths and American gun deaths? Skittles Jan 2015 #50
Compare away. former9thward Jan 2015 #51
no one says stricter control would prevent all gun humping nutcases Skittles Jan 2015 #52
Good, I expect to see you posting that the next time there is a mass shooting. former9thward Jan 2015 #53
LOL Skittles Jan 2015 #54
No kidding! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #60
I've driven through Moscow. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2015 #31
Police: 5 guns found in car of Idaho shooting-spree suspect Judi Lynn Jan 2015 #41
Idaho has some of the loosest, "anything goes" gun laws in the US brentspeak Jan 2015 #46
Why? JonLP24 Jan 2015 #63
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