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Major Hogwash

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112. Excellent analysis.

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:35 AM

Jan 2015

This definitely sets the stage for 2016, by leaving the Republicans with no one else to blame for not cutting the taxes for the Middle Class . . .after they have said that taxes are too high for the last 6 years!

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President Obama Will Seek to Reduce Taxes for Middle Class [View all] Mira Jan 2015 OP

Lotsa luck. nt onehandle Jan 2015 #1

Good. lovemydog Jan 2015 #2

Much preferably when they are in the majority, not when the most Republican Congress since 1928 merrily Jan 2015 #52

Yes, no kidding. lovemydog Jan 2015 #77

Exactly! Who are they kidding? raindaddy Jan 2015 #87

Two things ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #98

Two Things raindaddy Jan 2015 #101

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #102

Haters gotta hate.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #111

The truth just looks like hate to some..... raindaddy Jan 2015 #115

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #117

Do you even understand how the drastic tax cuts on the wealthy have hurt the middle class? raindaddy Jan 2015 #118

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #119

This isn't that hard... raindaddy Jan 2015 #125

I don't have a great deal of time to dispute the above ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #127

As if we could JUST return to the tax rate of the 1950's..... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #128

Great idea! raindaddy Jan 2015 #131

And mine is about YOUR disingenuous suggestion that we COULD return to 1950's tax rates... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #134

I didn't make that suggestion. raindaddy Jan 2015 #138

No....but you disingenuously want to blame this President for doing something about it.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #139

Trickle Down Has Been Such a Success raindaddy Jan 2015 #129

No one here says it has....but please do tell us how YOUR campaign plans to magically turn it all VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #135

My first inclination..... raindaddy Jan 2015 #137

Yeah that whole 24 days they had that right? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #140

I think that after this election dotymed Jan 2015 #100

I Hope You're Right! raindaddy Jan 2015 #103

They are already in action, having been sworn in to office on January 13th. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #113

Too bad Obama won't fight for it. Boner will come in and give him that orange scowl, and it'll be blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #3

Now?????? NOW??????? dixiegrrrrl Jan 2015 #4

Obama needs us all to help him with this... riversedge Jan 2015 #5

The GOP controls the House and Senate... deutsey Jan 2015 #6

Yep. NO points for proposing measures you know are doomed from the get go. Sorry! blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #7

exactly! well said....n/t wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #14

So Obama should only push proposals that the GOP will agree to? nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #31

No... tjl148 Jan 2015 #92

Well, because ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #99

No, you don't push huge tax increases in the depths of a huge recession. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #126

Obama just can't please some people. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #27

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #45

I think Washington kabuki warrants points OFF. merrily Jan 2015 #57

He only had a filibuster proof majority for 24 working days. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #70

False. Google the time period--and this time, count Kennedy's place holder, who would have voted merrily Jan 2015 #136

It is not false. I did Google it. Kennedy did not have a "placeholder." SunSeeker Jan 2015 #141

The time there were 60 in the Dem caucus exceeded 24 days by a lot and a placeholder handpicked merrily Jan 2015 #142

Links please. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #143

I have posted a link to a calendar that shows that so many times. merrily Jan 2015 #144

No link = lie. nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #145

No, no link = no link period. And you wonder why I didn't leap to google for you on command? merrily Jan 2015 #146

No, I'm not wondering why you're not giving me a link. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #147

No, you're just lying about why I didn't give you a link. merrily Jan 2015 #148

I haven't ignored what you've said up to now. You made the claim, not me. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #149

Again, don't care. merrily Jan 2015 #150

Yes, it is pretty obvious you don't care. nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #151

Good. Glad I succeeded. nt merrily Jan 2015 #152

Yes, you succeeded in establishing you lied. nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #153

Your lie about my refusal to be your google monkey doesn't establish diddly. merrily Jan 2015 #154

I didn't lie about you refusing to Google. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #155

As a reply to my Post 144, your Post 145 was a lie and now your Reply 155 lied about Post 145. merrily Jan 2015 #158

try this rtracey Jan 2015 #156

If actual working days are counted, it is 24 days of supermajority. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #157

He's been pushing a liberal agenda from day one. NYC Liberal Jan 2015 #20

There is nothing liberal about indefinite detention or drone killing innocent people. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #29

The ACA, auto bailout, and Recovery Act were not "kowtowing" to the Republicans. nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #39

I agree, but those don't make up a "liberal agenda" when weighed against the items rhett o rick Jan 2015 #71

That's your opinion. That is not a fact. nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #73

Do you disagree? Do you think his stands on torture, indefinite detention and NSA domestic rhett o rick Jan 2015 #74

Overall, yes, I think he is a liberal. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #76

And there is PLENTY of Liberal ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #46

I agree with your list but it's hardly a "liberal agenda" when weighed against the rhett o rick Jan 2015 #72

Hardly a "liberal agenda" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #83

Some people have a very loose definition of the term "liberal". If you support Wall Street rhett o rick Jan 2015 #89

And other folk ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #90

Your post makes no sense. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #110

Was typing on a smart-phone ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #116

Some people think that if they are liberal on one or two issues, then they are liberal. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #120

And liberals don't ignore racism/sexism/misogyny ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #121

What if you support only the portion of wall street that handles union pension plans? Aren't there 24601 Jan 2015 #130

Not sure if I understand your take, but some are willing to support Wall Street rhett o rick Jan 2015 #133

+ 1000 red dog 1 Jan 2015 #93

+1000. Obama's sock puppets come here w/their phony 11-dimensional chess BS, but we're not fooled, blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #107

I'm with you tavalon Jan 2015 #40

Um...he's already signed multiple tax cuts for the middle class. NYC Liberal Jan 2015 #21

Obama already pushed for a tax cut and also raised taxes on the rich in 2013. Drunken Irishman Jan 2015 #41

"More pliable Congress"? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #44

How about his first SIX years, during all of which Democrats were in the majority. merrily Jan 2015 #54

So yesterday they attack him for not proposing this, now that he has, they attack him for not NoJusticeNoPeace Jan 2015 #58

The ARRA cut taxes for 97% of Americans underpants Jan 2015 #79

He's never get it through Congress Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #8

Not with the current batch of Rethug criminals in there. harrose Jan 2015 #9

Perhaps ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #47

I think it's a bit too early to be effective for that Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #50

Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #56

You think so? Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #63

Yes .. 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #68

Really? tjl148 Jan 2015 #94

Yes, really! ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #97

Too bad that never occurred to him. merrily Jan 2015 #55

If not, then who will the Republicans blame for it? Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #114

Bwahahahaha! Saturday night comedy. nt valerief Jan 2015 #10

He is trying to set the agenda for 2016 n2doc Jan 2015 #11

And he didn't do this when in the majority why??? Fearless Jan 2015 #12

a possibility. wildbilln864 Jan 2015 #15

It's either that or he's stupid and thinks it'll pass a Republican legislature Fearless Jan 2015 #30

So Obama's doing this "against us"? SunSeeker Jan 2015 #37

No, he's doing it for his legacy. Fearless Jan 2015 #42

If you are saying, a legacy of setting up a 2016 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #48

You're asking me to disprove a negative statement. That's not possible. Fearless Jan 2015 #62

His legacy will be the ACA. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #66

Dems had a filibuster-proof 60 seats for only 24 work days, and they weren't even consecutive. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #26

Does it take more than 24 days to get all Dems together to vote for tax reform? Fearless Jan 2015 #28

Yes it does if one of those 60 votes is Lieberman. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #33

And how many days will it take with the current congress? Fearless Jan 2015 #43

Some parts of the plan might actually get passed in the current Congress. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #64

Nonsense. Big bank interests will prevail. It's all about the $$ Fearless Jan 2015 #65

We'll see. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #67

Republicans say they're doing things to help the middle class Fearless Jan 2015 #88

That comment should be an OP LittleGirl Jan 2015 #35

Sadly, it's not just the "other side" making that claim, as this thread shows. nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #36

finished reading the thread....indeed eom LittleGirl Jan 2015 #38

And it keeps popping up on this Democratic site, almost as often. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #49

About freakin' time! n/t RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #13

LOL I knew there would be whining .. guaranteed. Mahalo Mira. Thanks Obama~ Cha Jan 2015 #16

Why do I even bother coming here any more? NBachers Jan 2015 #19

.. Cha Jan 2015 #24

The "it's about time" and "why did he wait until now" comments are particularly amusing NYC Liberal Jan 2015 #23

I know, huh? Knee jerking that isn't even aware of the facts. Cha Jan 2015 #25

DUers never fail to disappoint IronLionZion Jan 2015 #159

"Middle Class" Charade v2` PSPS Jan 2015 #17

When the tax cut theshhold is established at $200,000 ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author glasshouses Jan 2015 #18

Theoretically this is a good thing jmowreader Jan 2015 #22

As a middle classer, gee thanks, President Obama, but that's not what I want tavalon Jan 2015 #32

As a middle classer, gee thanks, President Obama, but that's not what I want tavalon Jan 2015 #34

The republican middle class will put up a big stink. Turbineguy Jan 2015 #53

TAX CUTS DON'T MATTER IF YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB. CrispyQ Jan 2015 #59

It is the OP's link that framed it in Republican terms. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #84

"Well, you know I really wanted those middle class cuts and upper class hikes..." vi5 Jan 2015 #60

Obama already passed middle class tax cuts. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #85

He's just falling for their meme. lark Jan 2015 #61

Where was this Obama in 2008? obxhead Jan 2015 #69

Watch Republicans squirm treestar Jan 2015 #75

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Jan 2015 #81

No it doesn't. nt tjl148 Jan 2015 #95

Unenlightening. treestar Jan 2015 #96

Or they'll just propose a bigger one covering all incomes. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2015 #123

And Republicans will seek to raise them on the middle class and the working poor BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #78

Tax-cuts: the Republican cure-all. candelista Jan 2015 #80

Is this empty jest-ure supposed to make me forget he's pushing TPP behind the scenes? Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #82

+1000. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #109

Oh Yeah The TPP colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #86

.... 840high Jan 2015 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #91

Corporate Farmers are thrilled with his idea of disallowing stepped up basis cpamomfromtexas Jan 2015 #104

Simple fix ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #122

No, you don't understand the issue at hand. cpamomfromtexas Jan 2015 #160

Please explain then ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #161

If you die, you still have to find a way to leave to your children. cpamomfromtexas Jan 2015 #162

Fucking hilarious! blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #105

Pic URL: https://jahanc.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/obama-laughing-on-af1.jpg blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #106

Excellent analysis. Major Hogwash Jan 2015 #112

That stands as much chance in Fascist America as being struck by lightning . geretogo Jan 2015 #124

That's My President, Standing Up 4 The Middle Class... Corey_Baker08 Jan 2015 #132