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59. Have you actually tried to enforce foreign judgments in the USA?

Tue Jan 20, 2015, 03:58 PM

Jan 2015

It's not like easily registering judgments between states in America, which also sometimes encounters pitfalls.

I've dealt with the issue professionally, and it's often time-consuming, expensive and problematic. If a company with the resources of FOX news challenged the judgment here, particularly on a matters concerning speech and defamation, where American courts are far more protective, I do not believe Paris would be assured of any success. They might even have to effectively relitigate the entire case to ensure it complied with American First Amendment protections and public policy.

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Paris mayor: We intend to sue Fox News [View all] Cooley Hurd Jan 2015 OP

The first Amendment protects everyone. iandhr Jan 2015 #1

The First Amendment doesn't protect COLGATE4 Jan 2015 #2

Defamation is extremely hard to prove iandhr Jan 2015 #4

libel laws in europe are easier to win there than here. More roguevalley Jan 2015 #35

Paris courts do not have jurisdiction in the U.S. former9thward Jan 2015 #63

they can sue them there roguevalley Jan 2015 #66

And how exactly would that do them any good? Adrahil Jan 2015 #83

Wanna bet? tabasco Jan 2015 #75

Happy to bet. former9thward Jan 2015 #80

Are there no-go zones for non-Muslims in Paris? Ash_F Jan 2015 #45

I agree it's hard, but not impossible to prove. I too COLGATE4 Jan 2015 #51

Defamation is next to impossible to prove. Adrahil Jan 2015 #82

What area of law do you practice in? nt COLGATE4 Jan 2015 #85

Well, let's just see how this goes, eh? Adrahil Jan 2015 #86

That's what I thought. COLGATE4 Jan 2015 #96

If they successfully sure, then you can taunt me. If not, well.... told ya so. Adrahil Jan 2015 #98

well this is in france drray23 Jan 2015 #3

if the Trial is in France, do you yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #23

Seizing assets is not that hard. closeupready Jan 2015 #29

perhaps... yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #31

Seizing assets based on overseas judgment is VERY hard and often unsuccessful. branford Jan 2015 #37

Not true. closeupready Jan 2015 #43

Have you actually tried to enforce foreign judgments in the USA? branford Jan 2015 #59

If you're interested, Eugene Volokh at the Volokh Conspiracy posted a couple of blog entries branford Jan 2015 #61

Ok, thanks. I will take a look at these later. closeupready Jan 2015 #62

Fox makes money in France Ash_F Jan 2015 #47

"News International Phone Hacking Scandal". mwooldri Jan 2015 #70

The whole world doesn't dance to that tune. PSPS Jan 2015 #6

Where was the statement made? iandhr Jan 2015 #8

If French law doesn't apply here, christx30 Jan 2015 #12

They could potentially embarass FOX AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #19

No, it depends on the law of the country where the suit is filed. jeff47 Jan 2015 #50

I stand corrected iandhr Jan 2015 #53

Only in the US, not in France and the EU which is probably where cstanleytech Jan 2015 #10

good for her - at least it's an attempt samsingh Jan 2015 #14

Not in Paris. I don't know what law the mayor could invoke to take Fox to court, but this JDPriestly Jan 2015 #26

In a French Court? Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #30

welcome aboard, ferd berfel. I love your name :D roguevalley Jan 2015 #36

Are you old enough Ferd Berfel Jan 2015 #42

Fox News won a court battle with the Court of Appeals saying it was ok for Fox News to lie, Dustlawyer Jan 2015 #33

That was not in a French court, though. eom rogerashton Jan 2015 #54

Last time I checked Paris was in France and the 1st Amendment applied ... 11 Bravo Jan 2015 #38

Not if they are tried in France! RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #57

All incorrect. former9thward Jan 2015 #64

I sure hope you are wrong. RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #67

We can all dream. former9thward Jan 2015 #68

You are so sadly mistaken if you think the First Amendment applies internationally. dballance Jan 2015 #78

Two things ashling Jan 2015 #79

wonder why they didn't sue after Team America World Police came out snooper2 Jan 2015 #5

Oh man, I need to go watch that movie again. Thanks for the clip. 7962 Jan 2015 #13

Paris mayor: We intend to sue Fox News The CCC Jan 2015 #7

The CCC Diclotican Jan 2015 #15

+1 Pooka Fey Jan 2015 #25

Was it broadcast in France? JDPriestly Jan 2015 #27

Freedom of expression does not give one the right to LIE. DeSwiss Jan 2015 #73

The 1st Amendment covers Congress making laws, SeattleVet Jan 2015 #9

cities cannot be insulted. its insulting to claim so. is that grounds for an insulting suit as well| msongs Jan 2015 #11

I think she is addressing their tourist industry BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #22

Maybe this. JDPriestly Jan 2015 #28

The other important thing to remember is they don't have to sue in the US. jeff47 Jan 2015 #60

No but they can have their reputations harmed and suffer economic damage as a result. merrily Jan 2015 #32

Fox news lied. That's what the suit will be about. Avalux Jan 2015 #40

Don't get me started about New York. rogerashton Jan 2015 #55

Cities are people, too, and can feel insulted! JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2015 #100

A quick Google search finds why it was easy for Fox to make the statement in the first place 7962 Jan 2015 #16

Even a middle school child is told not to believe everything they find on the internet karynnj Jan 2015 #89

Actually, after listening again, Fox nevr actually says there ARENT no go zones 7962 Jan 2015 #99

I really wish heaven05 Jan 2015 #17

+1. I have a feeling many share your wish. merrily Jan 2015 #34

Challenge to a Duel lobodons Jan 2015 #18

The Paris Mayor would do better declaring war on Fox News as a terrorist organization which it is . geretogo Jan 2015 #20

aready been done..... Cryptoad Jan 2015 #21

Does she remember the French boycott? JonLP24 Jan 2015 #24

FOX "News" needs to learn it ain't true just because "Some people say,...". Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #39

It is one thing to be a joke for all conservative media, HoosierRadical Jan 2015 #41

Good. Turbineguy Jan 2015 #44

Vive la France! nt onehandle Jan 2015 #46

Vive le France! Je suis Charlie big_dog Jan 2015 #48

Can one really sue STUPID? vkkv Jan 2015 #49

Impressionnant! colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #52

Off with their heads! LiberalLovinLug Jan 2015 #56

Hail to the French! Neon Gods Jan 2015 #58

London and Birmingham should do so too! LeftishBrit Jan 2015 #65

Not even just an "insult," there are probably economic ramifications. Beartracks Jan 2015 #69

La Marseillaise! NBachers Jan 2015 #71

I'd love to leave this world knowing FOX has been taken down. YOHABLO Jan 2015 #72

Well said, something to really look forward to, yay! appalachiablue Jan 2015 #76

GREAT IDEA! DeSwiss Jan 2015 #74

Magnifique! Vive la France et Paris. appalachiablue Jan 2015 #77

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #81

Do these fuckwits never learn? T_i_B Jan 2015 #84

"I am French, excuse my English. All French mock Fox News now." Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #87

Don't forget this hilarious Le Petit Journal from a week ago... countryjake Jan 2015 #91

Here's the same video embedded from YouTube: Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #92

But that one doesn't show the whole piece, Fox's "Barbie & Ken"... countryjake Jan 2015 #93

I saw that, but couldn't find "la version integrale" on YT... Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #94

Young Turks covered it a bit more extensively, first showing Hasselbeck & Peterson countryjake Jan 2015 #95

Afraid I'm not your guy when it comes to photoshopping, Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #97

Fox is waging war against 1.6 billion Muslims, and they'll stop at nothing.. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #88

DO IT!!!!! calimary Jan 2015 #90