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In reply to the discussion: Anti-Austerity Party Wins Decisive Victory in Greece [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,383 posts)35. Not the collateralized sub-prime mortgage scam, but they did cook something up with GS
It was about how the Greek government could borrow money without it showing up on the balance sheet that determined whether it was sticking to the Euro rules:
How Goldman Sachs Helped Greece to Mask its True Debt
Now, though, it looks like the Greek figure jugglers have been even more brazen than was previously thought. "Around 2002 in particular, various investment banks offered complex financial products with which governments could push part of their liabilities into the future," one insider recalled, adding that Mediterranean countries had snapped up such products.
Greece's debt managers agreed a huge deal with the savvy bankers of US investment bank Goldman Sachs at the start of 2002. The deal involved so-called cross-currency swaps in which government debt issued in dollars and yen was swapped for euro debt for a certain period -- to be exchanged back into the original currencies at a later date.
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But in the Greek case the US bankers devised a special kind of swap with fictional exchange rates. That enabled Greece to receive a far higher sum than the actual euro market value of 10 billion dollars or yen. In that way Goldman Sachs secretly arranged additional credit of up to $1 billion for the Greeks.
This credit disguised as a swap didn't show up in the Greek debt statistics. Eurostat's reporting rules don't comprehensively record transactions involving financial derivatives. "The Maastricht rules can be circumvented quite legally through swaps," says a German derivatives dealer.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/greek-debt-crisis-how-goldman-sachs-helped-greece-to-mask-its-true-debt-a-676634.html
Now, though, it looks like the Greek figure jugglers have been even more brazen than was previously thought. "Around 2002 in particular, various investment banks offered complex financial products with which governments could push part of their liabilities into the future," one insider recalled, adding that Mediterranean countries had snapped up such products.
Greece's debt managers agreed a huge deal with the savvy bankers of US investment bank Goldman Sachs at the start of 2002. The deal involved so-called cross-currency swaps in which government debt issued in dollars and yen was swapped for euro debt for a certain period -- to be exchanged back into the original currencies at a later date.
...
But in the Greek case the US bankers devised a special kind of swap with fictional exchange rates. That enabled Greece to receive a far higher sum than the actual euro market value of 10 billion dollars or yen. In that way Goldman Sachs secretly arranged additional credit of up to $1 billion for the Greeks.
This credit disguised as a swap didn't show up in the Greek debt statistics. Eurostat's reporting rules don't comprehensively record transactions involving financial derivatives. "The Maastricht rules can be circumvented quite legally through swaps," says a German derivatives dealer.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/greek-debt-crisis-how-goldman-sachs-helped-greece-to-mask-its-true-debt-a-676634.html
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it's a clusterFxxx. Greece should never have been allowed in the Euro zone in the first place
uhnope
Jan 2015
#16
Very interesting. I hope Greece takes the turn quicker than we did here in the USA.
Raine1967
Jan 2015
#10
They can't invest in their infrastrucutre and education because they have neither money nor
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#23
There are other ways to lend themselves money they could print some bonds and sale them to
cstanleytech
Jan 2015
#26
So, let them leave Greece and go live in gloomy England or freezing Switzerland or some other
JDPriestly
Jan 2015
#24
Sometimes it takes pain to repair. But no one is willing to take it. We are the same here
7962
Jan 2015
#18
So just print 18 trillion and pay it all off! Great idea. Why havent we done that already?
7962
Jan 2015
#32
Not the collateralized sub-prime mortgage scam, but they did cook something up with GS
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2015
#35
With 1% of the world rich control half the wealth, why shouldn't the Greeks vote that way? (nt)
question everything
Jan 2015
#36