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In reply to the discussion: Russia blames Ukraine for violence, urges West not to support Kiev [View all]DetlefK
(16,670 posts)That rumor again that it's all the Great Satan's fault.
Someone chooses to side with the US over someone else? OMG, it's all part of a big plan for US world-domination!!!
- The Ukraine had to decide where to go: closer to EU or closer to Russia. Russia said: "Hey, why not both?" The EU said: "Nope, exclusively us or no deal." - - Ukraine picked Russia+EU, but the people in the Kiev-region didn't want any closer relationship to Russia (standards of living, civil rights... the usual). So they started to rebel in the capital and eventually ousted Janukovicz (or whatever his name is written in roman letters).
- The people in Eastern Ukraine would have liked a closer relationship with Russia. (Ukraine has a pretty clean split when you look at the electorate geographically: East-vs-West) They also got afraid of the ukrainian Neonazis because they thought now discrimination would come.
- And before this could be settled with words, the secessionists picked up their arms.
And where exactly did the US come into that mix? Joining NATO was briefly an issue when Timoshenko was President of Ukraine, but that plan never got much support in the Ukraine and NATO was careful because it would have angered Russia anyways.
Where is your evidence?
At what point do you say "This couldn't possibly have happened by itself. This was orchestrated. And not by the EU, but by the US." ?