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DFW

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27. Putin's KGB slip is showing
Wed Jan 28, 2015, 01:48 PM
Jan 2015

Putting out propaganda that is convenient but believed by nobody is going back to Soviet tactics. Someone as smart and well-traveled as Putin has to know that no one will swallow his yarn except those few who want to believe it plus those who are paid to "believe" it. But if that's his goal, its effectiveness stops at the Russian border.

All Germans, including the ones who miss the old DDR, know full well that there was no turning back the wishes of the East Germans after the border was open. The West had two choices: absorb about 10 million new residents or accept the East's application to join the Federal Republic, and pay through the nose to bring them up to West German living standards so that they'd stay where they were.

There was an old joke about what would happen to East Germany if it remained a separate country once the borders were open. The answer was that it would be the friendliest country on earth because there would be so few people left that they'd all know each other.

I don't know about TACC in its present day form, but back in the Soviet days, Igor Ignatieff, who ran their DC bureau, used to hang with my dad in the National Press Building. He tried to recruit my dad (!!!!) to spy for the Soviet Union. After my dad gave him a polite,"Igor, please fuck off," he shrugged his shoulders and said, "well, I was instructed to ask."

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Let me rush to RT..... wolfie001 Jan 2015 #1
You know, that was my first thought exactly. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2015 #3
Here is RT's 'spin' reorg Jan 2015 #9
using Gorbi's PatrynXX Jan 2015 #19
But Gorbachev position would also support Russia's annexation of the Crimea happyslug Jan 2015 #31
Moscow's term 'annex' is inaccurate LanternWaste Jan 2015 #2
I'm currently trying to coax one of the Putin-defenders into telling me where he gets his info from. DetlefK Jan 2015 #4
To understand the events in Ukraine you must understand the "first" Maidan - Orange Revolution 2004 newthinking Jan 2015 #10
Distorting Russia How the American media misrepresent Putin, Sochi and Ukraine. newthinking Jan 2015 #11
Yatsunek Investors newthinking Jan 2015 #12
The Washington Post's Putinology - Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting newthinking Jan 2015 #14
The Neocons — Masters of Chaos newthinking Jan 2015 #16
That was the Nation's last for me. The homophobia in that article was disturbing, I cancelled my Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #28
big overlap between homophobic bigots and Putin sympathizers uhnope Jan 2015 #34
They're busy translating it from Russian, just be patient a little while longer. freshwest Jan 2015 #30
"our three resident defenders of Moscow's expansionism" = Putin's trolls groundloop Jan 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Jan 2015 #21
In March 1990, not March 1989 (and TASS should talk about 1990 too) muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #7
I was wondering if someone was going to catch that DFW Jan 2015 #26
Yep. For one thing, the Berlin Wall fell in 1989. SheilaT Jan 2015 #15
Germans were the first to call it 'annexation' reorg Jan 2015 #20
German culture was different back then. DetlefK Jan 2015 #23
You sound like Helmut Kohl in the eighties reorg Jan 2015 #32
This is from "The Onion," right? Because.....Ukraine! WinkyDink Jan 2015 #6
It's true. But to somehow make it sound like it is a Russian Policy is disingenious newthinking Jan 2015 #17
I'll give you that one. Adrahil Jan 2015 #35
DetlefK Diclotican Jan 2015 #8
Boy this will sure teach the West a lesson ripcord Jan 2015 #13
See it's shit like this , I think Russia is run by someone like Sarah Palin PatrynXX Jan 2015 #18
This is a mistake. If they are trying to make a point about the post cold war era... yurbud Jan 2015 #22
Russia wants to add territories lovuian Jan 2015 #24
Germany is actually a wee bit away from Russia... DetlefK Jan 2015 #25
lol RiverNoord Jan 2015 #33
Putin's KGB slip is showing DFW Jan 2015 #27
Would there be a GDR without the terrorism and sabotage ? jakeXT Jan 2015 #29
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