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Pachamama

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11. We have been in a Depression the last year & worst to be felt is coming in 2012.
Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:57 PM
Dec 2011

While there have been some signs of the economy improving, they are fragile at best & being hindered from being better by the GOP blocking efforts by the Obama administration to provide economic stimulus. But what Krugman chillingly points out is the situation in Europe that is a grave danger not only to itself, but to the US economic & political situation.

The world economy & stability politically is teetering on the edge & dangerously close to authoritarian leanings and yes, revolution. Global revolution.

My family comes from Europe and I spend time there every summer. This last summer was very telling. Discussions in the Biergartens with my German family & friends were of wanting to go back to the Deutsch Mark & closing borders. Some feel very much pangs of Nationalism and others fear of memories from Germanys past. No one I spoke to either in Germany or from Spain, Italy, France or UK felt ok with the austerity measures being proposed & in fact the outrage expressed towards the banks, the EU and their own governments were filled with discussion of revolution & protest should things go that direction.

I fear that in the next 12 months that there could be a breakout of not only mass protests and revolt, but all out revolution both across Europe but also the US. I believe that groups with right-wing authoritarian leanings like the ones growing with power in Sweden, Finland, Norway, Austria, Italy, Spain etc have plans to take things in the direction similar to what Krugman described happening in Hungary. And if any one questions if it could happen here or that the US could become a police state or authoritarian establishment, I suggest looking at where we currently are and the response to the OWS protests around the country.

And dont kid yourself - the various Governments including our own know this is what we are teetering on.


that is some scary stuff indeed Skittles Dec 2011 #1
Excellent Article jannyk Dec 2011 #2
Actually, all the evidence seems to be that we're crawling OUT of the recession at the moment. TheWraith Dec 2011 #3
Um, wut? Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #5
ditto -- Remember Me Dec 2011 #15
Yup. Corporations hording cash is not a sign of strength either Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #21
Right DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #25
You're buying that? Warpy Dec 2011 #14
I have much respect for Dr K. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2011 #4
Du rec. Nt xchrom Dec 2011 #6
I can see why some might think the term "depression" is overblown, but ... dawg Dec 2011 #7
We seem to be following path of austerity, don't you think? dixiegrrrrl Dec 2011 #9
Economics 101 when 90% of a country's assets are in the lovuian Dec 2011 #8
K&R Odin2005 Dec 2011 #10
We have been in a Depression the last year & worst to be felt is coming in 2012. Pachamama Dec 2011 #11
Are you serious? Dan Dec 2011 #22
Yes, I am serious.... Pachamama Dec 2011 #26
Thank you,... Dan Dec 2011 #28
Good grief. Half a dozen post WWI Germany economies. bluerum Dec 2011 #12
Merry fucking Christmas! DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #17
in fact, in the 20s Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, and the other new countries bankrupted themselves MisterP Dec 2011 #13
"there’s no Hitler in sight." ellisonz Dec 2011 #16
"ominous political trends shouldn’t be dismissed just because there’s no Hitler in sight." Maven Dec 2011 #18
I got really tired of all the Hitler/Nazi references... ellisonz Dec 2011 #19
Hail the oligarchs! n/t Jefferson23 Dec 2011 #20
Not if you're a banker or other member of the 1%. Then you're doing better than ever. MannyGoldstein Dec 2011 #23
wrong spelling. it's a depWession. pansypoo53219 Dec 2011 #24
k&r Starry Messenger Dec 2011 #27
Excellent read. blackspade Dec 2011 #29
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