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Joe Chi Minh

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7. Corsair pirates used to raid British and continental coastal villages.
Mon Jul 13, 2015, 07:34 AM
Jul 2015

an interesting quote from the article linked below it:

"Thousands of Dutch, Germans and British 'languished for years in the chains of Barbary,' without the aid of organised clergy or state funds for their release. England set aside its 'Algerian Duty' from customs income to finance redemptions, but much of this was diverted to other uses. Large-scale ransomings - like the one headed by Edmund Casson that freed 244 men, women, and children in 1646 - were rare, with the result that Protestant Britons were often more demoralised and likely to die in captivity than European Catholics. As one ex-slave noted:

'All of the nations made some shift to live, save only the English, who it seems are not so shiftful as others, and... have no great kindness one for another. The winter I was in [captivity], I observ'd there died above twenty of them out of pure want.'"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/empire_seapower/white_slaves_01.shtml

The more things change, the more they stay the same. If our British Tories could change the wage-slaves they've turned much of the population into, into slaves, period, they surely would. This is what they must be working towards, simply because they don't know how to stop, and what Pope Francis is inveighing against.

One of my ancestors owned a slave ship, a man called Blathwayte, who was a co-worker and colleague of Pepys at the Admiralty's offices, and I imagine would have had slaves, but there's nothing I can do about that. A vast number of African Americans are descended from William the Conqueror, so their ancestors pretty much enslaved most of the English poor under their rule. Not that any of this could possibly justify slavery. Then or now.

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It wasn't just the English or Americans. DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #1
"Wasn't"? DavidDvorkin Jul 2015 #2
Thank you. I fixed it. DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #3
Do you mean that his owner was Marshal Bernadotte? hedda_foil Jul 2015 #4
Always loved that novel! BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #5
I don't know the name of his owner. DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #11
My brother, who is fluent in French after living in Paris, DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #14
You're absolutely correct that it wasn't just the British BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #6
It wsn't just in the distant past, either Demeter Jul 2015 #8
Too true, which is one reason BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #12
Thank you for all of this information you have shared. DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #13
Thanks for letting me know. BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #15
Please add more details. Your ancestor's history is amazing. hedda_foil Jul 2015 #16
I don't know how to post videos or photos. DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #18
Corsair pirates used to raid British and continental coastal villages. Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #7
But nowhere in the world was slavery practiced on the scale it was in the Southern U.S. Nitram Jul 2015 #9
I doubt if it was ever as vile elsewhere, either. Taking their children with their tender Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #10
Nothing is as warped to me as slave owners enslaving their own children. DamnYankeeInHouston Jul 2015 #19
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