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Baobab

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17. Does Liberal Arts Education breed terrorists?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 03:11 PM
Mar 2016

Of course not.

However IGNORANCE clearly does breed LACK OF ABILITY TO COPE WITH THE CHANGING WORLD and marginalization and eventually serious alienation and likely, terrorism.

Yes, science is hard, math is hard, but its also FUN and its also something people do - to aspire to our highest purpose.

JOBS ARE GOING AWAY PEOPLE, FAST. AND FOR GOOD.

Do people realize that the consensus in the scientific and engineering communities is that by 2045 or so, we will live in a society where very few people 'need to work' because machines will literally do almost everything better and faster and cheaper than any person could do with few exceptions. that means that there wont be work for most people at all, it wont be a matter for people to lower their asking price, it wont be a matter for people to try harder, they just wont be employed, ever, unless its for some sentimental reason or decorative reason or familial reason or something. People arnt going to be able to postpone retirement because they cant afford to, a huge number of people, perhaps almost everybody, literally almost everybody will be retired UNLESS we rise to the challenge and make our entire lives a process of learning, and bluntly, thats our only choice besides global war and genocide because SCIENCE is hard its also CHALLENGING and FUN and REWARDING and ALTRUISTIC and therefore THE BEST MOTIVATOR, the best FOOD for our RAPIDLY GROWING BRAINS. Science is the future. The more we learn the faster we learn more.
Do people realize that? No, they don't and they are unlikely to unless they have actually worked in fields where things change dramatically from one year to the next.

Frankly, thats why we need people to realize that anybody who is telling them that education is not important or that scientific knowledge isn't for everybody, is likely got some agenda that is not a good one.

We have a great future ahead of us, but some people are terrified of everything new and they likely need to realize that if we act that way the world wont wait for us, we'll be at a serious disadvantage and will be left behind, far behind.

because science isn't some abstract thing, science is life. Its not some esoteric distant thing, its understanding the world around you. Thats basically why millions of Americans cannot find work, in part its because the bar is rising very quickly, and so reading and arithmetic that fifty years ago was enough to get by now isn't, not even remotely,


the world has changed, and whats demanded of us has changed, now science literacy requires a lot more, and frankly, Americans are falling behind, because of idiotic proposals like this one.

Also, the likelihood of people being impacted by any way by an act of terrorism is close to zero, on the other hand, the negative consequences of lack of scientific literacy are huge and they are likely to be life changing.

We especially need people from non-traditional backgrounds- to DO science. Science is DOING THINGS.

Good things.

Life is doing things.

And anybody who wants to argue with me on that I warn you, this is no joke, this country is throwing away its future because of idiot statements like this. I reject them. Any smart person would.

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Does Engineering Education Breed Terrorists? [View all] struggle4progress Mar 2016 OP
No, but it does provide sociopaths useful information jberryhill Mar 2016 #1
Hey! I bet we could rig this microwave generator to this reflector and cook somebody's kidneys struggle4progress Mar 2016 #2
No, engineers don't think like that. Baobab Mar 2016 #4
It depends on the engineer, I think. There have been, for example, struggle4progress Mar 2016 #10
Thorstein Veblen in his book "The Theory of the Leisure Class" explains Baobab Mar 2016 #5
People with character disorders are much more likely to enter politics or some other Baobab Mar 2016 #6
This is the most preposterous thing I have ever read. Baobab Mar 2016 #3
The article is actually a thoughtful piece with many points of view struggle4progress Mar 2016 #7
What would that have to do with correctness? Baobab Mar 2016 #9
I have arrived at a point in life where I find statements, that I agree with, much less productive struggle4progress Mar 2016 #11
But that is exactly how it will be read by others who are desperate to cut education spending Baobab Mar 2016 #12
Engineers kill hundreds of people. Business and poly sci politicians kill hundreds of thousands. Festivito Mar 2016 #8
I don't see the US as having more of a demand for non-pragmatic ields of expertise in particular. Baobab Mar 2016 #13
My point being that it is more pragmatic to choose engineering, thereby, perhaps more common. Festivito Mar 2016 #15
No. Next question. bvf Mar 2016 #14
I'd say that's putting the cart before the horse. malthaussen Mar 2016 #16
Does Liberal Arts Education breed terrorists? Baobab Mar 2016 #17
You are right to site ignorance cprise Mar 2016 #24
Terrorists, to be effective, have to learn some engineering. bemildred Mar 2016 #18
bemildred, technology is LIFE Baobab Mar 2016 #21
Look up "cornucopianism" cprise Mar 2016 #23
Wasn't there a study showing that religious fundamentalists cprise Mar 2016 #19
Let me ask you guys something, where do you think jobs are going to come from in 20 or 30 years? Baobab Mar 2016 #20
Calm down. We're on the same side. bemildred Mar 2016 #22
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