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yurbud

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Sun Apr 3, 2016, 01:03 PM Apr 2016

What if Saudi is rushing to sell oil before it's worthless? [View all]

Last edited Sun Apr 3, 2016, 02:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Possible explanations for Saudis high production that's driving down prices haven't quite made sense.

If they were doing it to help US foreign policy squeeze oil rich countries like Russia and Venezuela that aren't following our orders, that is a pretty big hit to take for the team, given that they have a finite amount of oil.

Putting tar sands and shale oil out of business also doesn't quite make sense for the same reason.

Slowing demand would be a good reason to cut or at least not ramp up production until demand increases.

But what if they realize they are selling whale oil for lanterns when everyone is about to switch to kerosene? Or more on point, they are selling gaslights when everyone else is about to buy their first lightbulb?

Then slowly doling out your product to maximize profits would make no sense. You would want to get whatever you could for it before it's worthless.

That makes more sense than other explanations, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving, medieval, terrorist-supporting royal family.


Here’s a simpler hypothesis: Maybe the
Saudis aren’t cutting production in the face of low prices because huge portions of their oil reserves might eventually become worthless. That’s what James Rowe, an environmental studies professor at the University of Victoria, thinks.

If that happens, today’s oil prices won’t look low — not when there’s an overabundance of an asset that can’t be sold. But oil prices are the lowest they’ve been in 12 years, you say. How could they ever be considered high?

This explanation relies on two related ideas: a carbon bubble and stranded assets. The carbon bubble refers to the fact that energy companies around the world are sitting on five times more fossil fuels than can be burned, the research nonprofit Carbon Tracker estimates. Those assets, worth about $2 trillion, are referred to as “stranded assets.”

So what does that mean for an oil company that controls a state? It might as well sell as much oil as possible while still can.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/56d868f4e4b0000de4039231
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Bada bing! Makes as much sense as any other theory. KSA has been diversifying for years, too. MADem Apr 2016 #1
I did it on my phone, so that could be why. yurbud Apr 2016 #6
Maybe it was me--seems to be fine now...here's a kick for the evening crowd. nt MADem Apr 2016 #7
no, I fixed it after I saw your comment. yurbud Apr 2016 #10
Ah, grand! Here's another kick--I think this is one helluva thesis, not sure why no one is weighing MADem Apr 2016 #14
He gets it in one. bemildred Apr 2016 #2
I suspect that making alternative energy prices less competition CentralMass Apr 2016 #3
I think they wrecked that option when they let it get over $5/gallon yurbud Apr 2016 #9
I think it's totally geopolitical, and they'll get paid back hundredfold once Russia/Iran/Venezeula CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #4
how would they get paid back? yurbud Apr 2016 #5
Once the deed is done, oil will be $150 a barrel CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #12
When gas got over $5 a gallon in LA, SUVs starting piling up on the lots yurbud Apr 2016 #18
If that's what's going on, Saudi is a complete sock puppet of Washington yurbud Apr 2016 #11
One thing they have a LOT of is vast open spaces and a shitload of sunshine! MADem Apr 2016 #15
I think they are already making plans for that, which would be a steady stream of income yurbud Apr 2016 #16
I agree w/you. They'll either have to start working for themselves, or investing MADem Apr 2016 #19
there's one problem with the scenario we're painting: it can't be controlled by a few yurbud Apr 2016 #20
That's a fair point. But I had a smart relative who used to tell me MADem Apr 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Mudcat Apr 2016 #8
I imagine that's part of it Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #13
this theory also fits overall revolution of our time: monopolies of wealthy replaced with yurbud Apr 2016 #17
The research assumes there's an alternative to oil that can be rolled out rapidly NickB79 Apr 2016 #22
that is an old argument to alternative energy: we can't use more because we aren't using much now yurbud Jul 2016 #23
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