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In reply to the discussion: Yes, Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and Hillary represents the very worst of the party/SALON [View all]Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Many are the types of progressives that would support Bernie, and a few have been endorsed by Bernie.
You want Bernie for President? Give him a congress that will make his vision possible. Without it, he's just hot air.
Hell, for that matter, and I'd say we very likely disagree here, I do fully believe that if there WAS a progressive congress in the works, Hillary would likely be running a much more progressive platform as well. That's just a hypothetical, so we'll just have to disagree.
You want more than incremental legislation? Great, so do I. It has to START with with a change of Congress, not the POTUS. Even the teabaggers got that one single thing right... They changed the landscape of the congress (completely wrong direction). Of course that was no small part of the reason that most of the Obama accomplishment list happened before 2010.
Right now, and the way the 115th congress is shaping up to look (in the House almost certainly, and very possibly the senate as well) we don't even have an "incremental" congress that will somewhat work with either of our POTUS candidates. We're looking at a continued obstructionist congress.. One that will continue to try to pass ridiculous bills to repeal the ACA, and certainly not for the purpose of implementing a single payer system.
Unless you have polls, or can show me a realistic potential roll call vote for the next congress that the next POTUS WILL have to work with that will support progressive causes, incrementalism is the best we can hope for.. of the 2 candidates, the only one that I feel is at all capable of working with the reality of what congress is and will look like.. That's Hillary.
I've been saying, in more than a few posts, since the middle of last summer.. you show me the Bernie revolution expanding beyond just getting him elected, and you have another supporter for him here.
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