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muriel_volestrangler

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12. Trump has no social security policy; Clinton says no cuts
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 05:28 AM
Apr 2016
Donald Trump has yet to Take a Stand.

http://takeastand.aarp.org/candidate/donald-trump/

Social Security isn’t just a program—it’s a promise. As president, Hillary will:

Defend Social Security against Republican attacks. Republicans are using scare tactics about the future and effectiveness of Social Security to push through policies that would jeopardize it. The real threat is Republican attempts to undermine the bedrock of the system. Hillary believes that Social Security must remain what it has always been: a rock-solid benefit that seniors can always count on—not subject to the budget whims of Congress or to the fluctuations of the stock market. She fought Republican efforts to undermine Social Security when she was a senator and throughout her career, and she will fight them as president. As president, she would:

Fight any attempts to gamble seniors’ retirement security on the stock market through privatization.
Oppose reducing annual cost-of-living adjustments.
Oppose Republican efforts to raise the retirement age—an unfair idea that will particularly hurt the seniors who have worked the hardest throughout their lives.
Oppose closing the long-term shortfall on the backs of the middle class, whether through benefit cuts or tax increases.

http://takeastand.aarp.org/candidate/hillary-clinton/

Hillary Clinton: Clinton wants to “expand Social Security for those who need it most and who are treated unfairly by the current system — including women who are widows and those who took significant time out of the paid workforce to take care of their children, aging parents, or ailing family members.”

Of note, Clinton is the only candidate who wants to improve benefits for caregivers, according to AARP. “She supports targeted benefit expansions, including a caregiver credit so that people (mostly women) who take time out of the workforce to care for loved ones aren’t penalized when calculating their Social Security benefits,” according to SocialSecurityWorks.org.

And like Sanders, Clinton wants to “preserve Social Security for decades to come by asking the wealthiest to contribute more.” Options include: taxing some of their income above the current Social Security cap and taxing some of their income not currently taken into account by the Social Security system. Read Clinton’s proposal.

SocialSecurityWorks.org praised Sanders and Clinton for opposing all types of Social Security benefits cuts, including efforts to raise the retirement age. Of note, Clinton recently tweeted “I won’t cut Social Security. As always, I’ll defend it, and I’ll expand it.”
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Trump previously proposed raising the Social Security retirement age to 70 from 67. But he backed away from that stance last year and has since called for infusing Social Security with cash by canceling foreign aid to anti-American countries. Read Is Donald Trump’s new plan for Social Security crazy?

According to SocialSecurityWorks.org, Trump has criticized Republicans for supporting cuts to Social Security and Medicare, and has said he won’t cut benefits, but will instead strengthen them by growing the economy. This is a departure from his position in a book he wrote in 2000, where he called Social Security a Ponzi scheme and said it should be privatized, according to Lacy Crawford, a communications director for SocialSecurityWorks.org .

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-candidates-plan-to-fix-social-security-2016-02-16

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All that stuff really worries me hollowdweller Apr 2016 #1
Trump says no cuts to Social Security Downwinder Apr 2016 #2
ditto on TPP nt redruddyred Apr 2016 #10
Trump has no social security policy; Clinton says no cuts muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #12
Trump to PJM on 2016 Platform: No Social Security Cuts Downwinder Apr 2016 #13
Nearly a year ago, and it's just him saying 'no cut'; he still hasn't got a policy muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #14
I don't trust either one of them. Downwinder Apr 2016 #15
So why bother bringing it up, as if Trump is better than Hillary? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #16
I don't think she is a liar. Downwinder Apr 2016 #17
So why bother bringing it up, as if Trump is better than Hillary? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #18
Social Security is a life or death situation for me. Downwinder Apr 2016 #19
But Hillary has been far more specific on Social Security than Trump, and advocates raising muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #21
"I will fight" is not ""I won't cut." Downwinder Apr 2016 #22
She has said both "I won’t cut Social Security" and "she will fight" and "she will oppose" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #24
To me "I will fight" is a maybe. Downwinder Apr 2016 #25
And she has also said "I won't cut", which is what you wanted her to say muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #27
Are you claiming Downwinder Apr 2016 #29
"I won’t cut Social Security. As always, I’ll defend it, and I’ll expand it" muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #30
"Fight" is a nebulous term. It is an invitation to negotiate. Downwinder Apr 2016 #31
AGAIN, what are you claiming I said was not valid? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #32
I am not pushing anyone on anybody. Downwinder Apr 2016 #33
Clinton has said "I won't cut Social Security"; you claimed she might muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #34
I assume the web site to be authoritative. Is it not? Downwinder Apr 2016 #35
What the fuck are you talking about? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #36
Thanks for the MS therapy. Downwinder Apr 2016 #37
Again, what the fuck are you talking about? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #38
You have not convinced me. Downwinder Apr 2016 #39
So this isn't important to you after all, but just 'play' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #40
MS therapy is very important to me, much more so than politics. Downwinder Apr 2016 #41
You claimed it was life or death for you; now you admit you were playing muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #42
Social Security is life or death. Downwinder Apr 2016 #43
This is outrageous. MBS Apr 2016 #3
Hillary has to earn her vote, NO ONE is owed a vote. eom zalinda Apr 2016 #4
She will get my vote if she's nominated hollowdweller Apr 2016 #5
She doesn't have to prove it LiberalElite Apr 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #6
Here's the tax plan of the man you think is 'far better than Hillary' muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #11
That Is Just Stupid erpowers Apr 2016 #7
Ok..but do you really think Hillary will do anything Oldenuff Apr 2016 #9
You've bougt into decades of a right-wing hate campaign against Hillary. Paladin Apr 2016 #20
Oh, she really is not for war and fracking and the TPP and against Single Payer - djean111 Apr 2016 #26
Sad Your Post Was Hidden erpowers Apr 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author muriel_volestrangler Apr 2016 #28
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