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drokhole

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52. 1. Steamroll people’s rights and opinions. 2. Anticipate and leverage resistance. 3. Profit!
Wed May 18, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

Briefly, this is a conversation worth a listen (with a guy who authored a book more than worth a read):

http://davidswanson.org/node/4671

Note particularly the point where the guest speaks to the fact that those in power often orchestrate or perform some egregious action, only to turn around and denounce reactions and feign innocence of any initial infraction or systemic injustice (a common tactic of the powerful and those in charge).

Longly (from another author/researcher), there are stories that unite and stories that divide (posted this in another thread, but bears repeating to highlight the inner workings of the establishment's attempt to continue to actively misrepresent what happened, and concoct, control, and perpetuate a narrative that has been discredited):

Stories that unite
Have elements of play
Focus on changeable behavior
Identify qualities group members share
Poke fun at the powerful

Stories that divide
Lack elements of play
Focus on essences of people
Identify qualities few people have
Belittle, reject less powerful

"To tell great stories is to inspire, unite, animate, and find opportunities for power.

My study of fraternity teasing, however, also offered a cautionary tale about the potential abuses of power in storytelling. Our high-power, active fraternity members told stories that were often lacking playful markers. They went after lower-status targets in blunt, humiliating, and isolating attacks. This result has been replicated in other studies as well. Studies of bullies (PDF) find that their jokes generate little laughter but instead humiliate. Sexual harassment, always perpetrated by the more powerful, often begins in stories and jokes that isolate, demean, and coerce.

More generally, power can lead to a demeaning form of storytelling I call narratives of exceptionalism. These are stories that people who hold entrenched power tell about how extraordinary those at the top are.

Narratives of exceptionalism have the attributes of stories that divide. They focus on rare “essence” of people rather than changeable behavior, and suggest that the unusual traits of a select few separate them from the hoi polloi.

(...)

Narratives of exceptionalism matter. They are used to justify people’s positions of power, thus impeding social progress. They blind people to their own abuses of power. And they can deter deserving people from pursuing positions of power that would allow them to make valuable contributions to society."
- Dacher Keltner (from The Power Paradox)

Now, let's look how each "side" officially responded following this past weekend's events:

The explosive situation arose in large part because a portion of the community of Sanders delegates arrived at the Nevada Democratic State Convention believing itself to be a vanguard intent upon sparking a street-fight rather than attending an orderly political party process. Surprised and outraged at the idea of being out-organized and thus outnumbered in the convention hall by Clinton delegates, a portion of the Sanders delegation rushed the dais immediately upon the opening of the convention and halted the progress of any convention business for much of the day. Indeed, every point during which Sanders delegates did not agree with any aspect of the proceedings saw them press up against the dais and scream obscenities and threats at the Chair, First Vice Chair, and any other speaker. In fact, event security provided by the Paris Las Vegas Hotel & Casino took it upon themselves to increase the security perimeter around the dais so the convention could simply move forward with its routine business in relative safety. In other words, the hour-to-hour business of Nevada Democrats was necessarily conducted in an atmosphere of impending eruption of physical threats and intimidation for more than 12 hours. Scuffles, screams from bullhorns, and profane insults marked nearly the entirety of the event. Numerous medical emergencies among delegates pressed up against the dais had to be attended to throughout the day.

The Sanders Campaign spent its time either ignoring or profiting from the chaos it did much to create and nothing to diminish or mitigate.

(...)

The people who fostered, encouraged, and gained from the unsettling scenes at the Nevada State Democratic Convention bring dishonor and discredit to our state and national parties. Having seen up close the lack of conscience or concern for the ramifications of their actions—indeed, the glee with which they engaged in such destructive behavior—we expect similar tactics at the National Convention in July.


And, from Sanders:

“It is imperative that the Democratic leadership, both nationally and in the states, understand that the political world is changing and that millions of Americans are outraged at establishment politics and establishment economics. The people of this country want a government which represents all of us, not just the 1 percent, super PACs and wealthy campaign contributors.

The Democratic Party has a choice. It can open its doors and welcome into the party people who are prepared to fight for real economic and social change – people who are willing to take on Wall Street, corporate greed and a fossil fuel industry which is destroying this planet. Or the party can choose to maintain its status quo structure, remain dependent on big-money campaign contributions and be a party with limited participation and limited energy."


The contrast couldn't be more stark. Right out the gate, the Nevada Democratic Party officials - with violently charged language - seek to smear and demean in "blunt, humiliating, and isolating attacks." Whereas Sanders, given the same opportunity in opening remarks, doesn't attack the disenfranchised and powerless, but calls for more inclusion and fights on their behalf.

"But once people feel powerful, their attention shifts. They often stop prioritizing others’ interests and the greater good. They become concerned with gratifying their own desires, and they become vulnerable to a lack of empathy, impulsive behavior, and stories that divide and humiliate others.

This is the power paradox: The very skills that help us attain power vanish once we feel powerful or live a life of privilege. And the paradox is evident in the ways in which power is intertwined with storytelling."
- Dacher Keltner
Amazing how he got Boxer to play along BeyondGeography May 2016 #1
Boxer? ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #22
Boxer Got Booed DarkScholar82 May 2016 #25
But she is not used to that, so it had to be traumatic LiberalArkie May 2016 #27
I've seen the tape. There was no violence, but Boxer did her best to incite some. bvar22 May 2016 #129
I think just someone talking back to her or questioning her would be traumatic. LiberalArkie May 2016 #131
She thought it was violent BeyondGeography May 2016 #37
Oh nohs! A significant amount of people are booing me! SkyIsGrey May 2016 #113
It seems they all played along, but the evidence is apparently not there - no 'riot' ever occurred! Baobab May 2016 #128
No injuries, no arrests, no property damage, no reports of violence from Nevada Police..... bvar22 May 2016 #130
It is too late for the truth. pangaia May 2016 #2
She's horrible...no question. Self-centered and arrogant... SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #39
Thank you kayakjohnny May 2016 #77
The vile creeps she hired to run her campaign arikara May 2016 #85
+1,000,001 dchill May 2016 #97
And how the Hillary fans perpetuate it to this day. cui bono May 2016 #3
This will should give us an idea of how honest and transparent her administration would be. Ferd Berfel May 2016 #24
Hey Plucketeer May 2016 #47
Yes, she "tries" and has yet to succeed. dae May 2016 #69
Her record in office already telegraphs that. cui bono May 2016 #124
How Democrats Manipulated Nevada State Party Convention Then Blamed Sanders For Chaos Judi Lynn May 2016 #4
Thom Hartmann invited a supporter of the Bernie campaign who is also an established JDPriestly May 2016 #41
thanks for that bit of info jd questionseverything May 2016 #125
Could this be the "Dean Scream" subterfuge? pangaia May 2016 #46
Exactly where my mind jumped to... ReRe May 2016 #90
K&R nt silvershadow May 2016 #5
That riot is way past the point of deniability, Progressive dog May 2016 #6
Just like it was undeniable that Dean's scream showed he was insane, right? (nt) jeff47 May 2016 #7
So you are claiming that Dean screamed and Progressive dog May 2016 #9
Nope. jeff47 May 2016 #15
You can keep claiming there is no pictures or videos Progressive dog May 2016 #16
Great. Link them. jeff47 May 2016 #17
Hmm it's been about 2 hours and they still haven't produced that proof they stand by. retrowire May 2016 #54
Photoshopping should be quicker ejbr May 2016 #59
EXACTLY. nt retrowire May 2016 #66
LINK Progressive dog May 2016 #119
The link you posted DISPROVES your claims...100%. bvar22 May 2016 #132
That was odd, wasn't it? Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn May 2016 #135
Disproving claims would require disproving the Progressive dog May 2016 #159
will someone think of the children!!!??! they lifted a chair!!! Javaman May 2016 #139
I've Searched and Searched Leith May 2016 #67
That's a serious compilation of film... ReRe May 2016 #91
Thanks Leith May 2016 #123
link Progressive dog May 2016 #118
Lifting a chair is proof of a riot. You actually want to make that claim? jeff47 May 2016 #127
Please help by providing links to said photos nikto May 2016 #74
Here Progressive dog May 2016 #117
the great lifting of the chair incident again! Javaman May 2016 #140
Right, he just threatened to throw it Progressive dog May 2016 #142
LOLOLOLOL!!! Javaman May 2016 #153
Wrong... JeaneRaye May 2016 #99
Posted link to "raw story" in this thread Progressive dog May 2016 #115
But those Bernie-Bros hug so aggressively!!!!!!!!!! nikto May 2016 #137
where are the pics?? lakeguy May 2016 #107
Link in this thread Progressive dog May 2016 #116
add me to the list of those requesting a link to these pictures and videos n/t JustinL May 2016 #111
Heres Raw story Progressive dog May 2016 #114
#1 You link DISPROVES your claims. bvar22 May 2016 #133
So assault and threats are OK with you Progressive dog May 2016 #143
You claim there was an "assault"? bvar22 May 2016 #144
This is definition of assault Progressive dog May 2016 #145
OH, I see what your problem is. bvar22 May 2016 #146
What exactly does that have to do with the riot? Progressive dog May 2016 #147
Talk to The Hand bvar22 May 2016 #149
So glad you posted this. It is accurate, and it's great to see it written so well. n/t Judi Lynn May 2016 #151
That is bizarre (reasoning?) Progressive dog May 2016 #158
Legally speaking, what happened in Nevada could not be classified as assault. Exilednight May 2016 #152
Witnesses made the claim of chairs being thrown Progressive dog May 2016 #157
they were illegally trespassing and failing to obey law enforcement. Exilednight May 2016 #160
again with the lifting of the chair. Javaman May 2016 #141
What riot? leftinportland May 2016 #8
Yes you are Progressive dog May 2016 #10
Where is the video? arcane1 May 2016 #28
You were asked for links to prove your point Ferd Berfel May 2016 #29
There was no riot AgingAmerican May 2016 #50
Rioting Plucketeer May 2016 #51
Ok, that was funny. n/t JimDandy May 2016 #101
Look at this agitated soul! Plucketeer May 2016 #53
run Forrest, run stupidicus May 2016 #57
Do you even have ONE link? nikto May 2016 #75
WHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pangaia May 2016 #81
how much are you getting paid to keep pushing this lie? lakeguy May 2016 #108
Here's the ACTUAL LINK TO THE BERNIE SUPPORTERS' BIG FIGHT nikto May 2016 #138
Riot? beardown May 2016 #11
You must live in a special world where intimidation Progressive dog May 2016 #13
You still haven't provided a link of the video or still picture Perogie May 2016 #23
Congratulations on reaching full ignore (NT) The Wizard May 2016 #60
Agreed, BS on ignore. It is getting real thick with this violence stick mrdmk May 2016 #88
If you have a link to the "riot" please post it.. mountain grammy May 2016 #64
Believe No One With Progressive, Liberal or Democrat in their Screen Name billhicks76 May 2016 #103
It's a DU tradition for conservatives to adopt ostentatiously lefty handles. QC May 2016 #154
Military Contractors For Hillary Is Trending...lol billhicks76 May 2016 #155
you must live in a special world where lying non-stop is considered lakeguy May 2016 #109
The Bernie cheering squad will continue to deny all this right up to criminal charges. leftofcool May 2016 #20
haha haha keep dreaming nt LiberalElite May 2016 #26
A guy picked up a chair and put it down Ferd Berfel May 2016 #30
Yes, he picked up the chair and another guy said no no and he put it down and they hugged it out. YOHABLO May 2016 #94
Or at the '68 Democratic Convention when THE POLICE RIOTED Ferd Berfel May 2016 #126
And the Hillary people will keep escalating the narrative up to crimes were committed. zeemike May 2016 #36
The "ACORN" effect... ReRe May 2016 #96
That's a good name for it. zeemike May 2016 #100
I'm still angry about how FAST The Democratic Party and President Obama dropped ACORN.. bvar22 May 2016 #161
I know!!! ReRe May 2016 #162
They arrested a HRC supporter that attacked a Bernie person. glinda May 2016 #38
You're talking about Clinton's criminal charges? Fantastic Anarchist May 2016 #80
If there are any charges brought... ReRe May 2016 #95
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #31
There was no riot... pangaia May 2016 #48
It's time to back your shit UP. You say there was a "riot" please provide evidence...If you cannot AzDar May 2016 #76
Whitewater, vince foster, drugs, carpet bagging, etc - some say they passed that point too The Straight Story May 2016 #148
K&R! This post should receive hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast May 2016 #12
It was obvious ratfuckery from the beginning blackspade May 2016 #14
Sickening scottie55 May 2016 #33
I guess all those death threats were manufactured as well? leftofcool May 2016 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #34
Which ones? There have been death threats to delegates of both candidates. (nt) jeff47 May 2016 #71
If the shoe fits arikara May 2016 #86
By Whom? billhicks76 May 2016 #104
And The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves! Ford_Prefect May 2016 #19
And I just got done watching a video here on DU about 1968. jwirr May 2016 #45
I suspect most of the people who are in denial about it do not know about Daley. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #61
So very much love you last paragraph. That is where we are jwirr May 2016 #63
Let me second the Standing Ovation for your last paragraph. Boomerproud May 2016 #73
Your dad and mine and a whole lot more went to war to stop this kind of thing. Ford_Prefect May 2016 #84
Hmmm... Damage control Gman May 2016 #21
Some Party Chairs Screw People And Make The Party Look Far Worse scottie55 May 2016 #102
What do the Hillary supporters say about this now? Now it's just their supporter who punched ViseGrip May 2016 #32
When Hillary Loses It Will All Be Bernie's Fault scottie55 May 2016 #35
Of course. I'll tell her supporters 840high May 2016 #40
I'm so upset I'm going to send Babs a package of Depends-fear is a terrible thing. jalan48 May 2016 #42
Sure, it was just an imaginary ruckus and the police were only there for the free food. procon May 2016 #43
The cops stood there AgingAmerican May 2016 #55
News reports don't support your fictional claim. procon May 2016 #65
There were multiple cameras live from multiple angles AgingAmerican May 2016 #68
Yes, we know, everyone is out to get you... procon May 2016 #70
The lies have been exposed AgingAmerican May 2016 #72
Yes, its a global conspiracy against Sanders. procon May 2016 #78
You done now? frylock May 2016 #98
Wow. Clinton Group Working Overtime. billhicks76 May 2016 #106
There Are Videos Of Clinton Cheating During The Caucuses billhicks76 May 2016 #105
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #79
I read what the police said, yes. procon May 2016 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #83
Puhleese, just stop. procon May 2016 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #89
Yeah, I know, everyone is picking on you, everyone is lying, everything is BS... procon May 2016 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author TM99 May 2016 #93
WooHoo libodem May 2016 #44
Why do you hate the truth? asuhornets May 2016 #49
1. Steamroll people’s rights and opinions. 2. Anticipate and leverage resistance. 3. Profit! drokhole May 2016 #52
Good old nutty CounterPunch.... Blue_Tires May 2016 #56
how much more dumb, dishonest, and disgusting can they get? stupidicus May 2016 #58
It's time to bring a final end to psychopathic rule. This lying, cheatin, stealing, bullying, Dont call me Shirley May 2016 #62
Being a Troll for Hillary must not pay much... concreteblue May 2016 #110
Same trick as the manufactured Bernie's Bros. Helen Borg May 2016 #112
"There’s little disagreement that the convention was chaotic." PolitiFact Nevada was there bloom May 2016 #120
Link to NPR Progressive dog May 2016 #121
The Clinton Campaign are the bullies. They think because they have the major corporation backing rhett o rick May 2016 #122
Call me paranoid, but I believe there is more to this than a rowdy night in Vegas. bvar22 May 2016 #134
Yikes. I think you've got something. I can't help thinking about our founders that rhett o rick May 2016 #136
Kicking nt LiberalElite May 2016 #150
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2016 #156
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