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Ken Burch

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65. I just said I didn't want her to apologize. It's not about her at all

Wed Aug 23, 2017, 05:29 PM

Aug 2017

It's about the way the fall campaign was run-and, since I doubt that you made the major decisions in that campaign, it makes no sense that you are taking this as a personal attack.

HRC would have been a fine president.

I would still like to see the next Democratic president appoint her to the Supreme Court.

I have nothing against her as a person or a candidate at all.

And it's not as though we'd run a "stay the course" campaign in '20 anyway, so what is the harm in admitting we need to do some things differently?

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Has Hillary Clinton abased herself sufficiently to satisfy her critics? [View all] DonViejo Aug 2017 OP

women MUST be put in their place!! niyad Aug 2017 #1

People who hate Hillary Clinton will NEVER be satisfied. Dulcinea Aug 2017 #84

in a very ladylike and subservient manner, of course!! niyad Aug 2017 #85

I think as women we train the people around us to expect us to apologize profusely Fresh_Start Aug 2017 #2

I don't think we do the training. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2017 #10

I agree that we are trained from birth...and then we train the people around us to expect it Fresh_Start Aug 2017 #14

People try and get you to be apologetic and also unsure- there is nothing like the reaction you get bettyellen Aug 2017 #43

I never thought that Hillary Clinton needed to abase herself in the first place Gothmog Aug 2017 #3

Me either, and, frankly, I'm not sure that's what's she's doing in her book whathehell Aug 2017 #58

She's not abasing herself. Reader is thin skinned onit2day Aug 2017 #72

Agreed...Well said. whathehell Aug 2017 #78

Doubtful Scoopster Aug 2017 #4

if only she were more perfect, the right-wing wouldn't have smeared her with lies for 25 years! unblock Aug 2017 #5

No Iliyah Aug 2017 #6

Forget apologizing. I want HRC to issue a big "Fuck you!" to the idiots who elected 45. LonePirate Aug 2017 #7

I wish I could rec your post Lifelong Protester Aug 2017 #12

This!!! paleotn Aug 2017 #30

Agreed. Personally, I've had to Ilsa Aug 2017 #33

Actually, the segment played on Morning Joe did just that. Showed Trump up to be a creep mnhtnbb Aug 2017 #53

Her critics will never be satisfied...nt comradebillyboy Aug 2017 #8

Her critics will never be satisfied... LenaBaby61 Aug 2017 #17

Needs to be repeated: Her critics will never be satisfied! FuzzyRabbit Aug 2017 #26

To underscore: Her critics will never be satisfied. Beartracks Aug 2017 #28

Never, ever, ever nolabear Aug 2017 #46

I did hear part of this and it took me back too Rhiannon12866 Aug 2017 #9

I remember when it happened and Ilsa Aug 2017 #37

When the old white guys and their supporters Vetteguy Aug 2017 #11

I did what I consider my most effective action: Croney Aug 2017 #13

The only people calling for her to self-abase are people who were always critical of her Docreed2003 Aug 2017 #15

Please Hillary, don't apologize! Those of us who support you don't need it, and your detractos lunamagica Aug 2017 #16

Don't forget...SHE WON! BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #18

I guess it's her fault she didn't have a big enough lead... Beartracks Aug 2017 #34

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #19

She can never say mea culpa loud enough or often Progressive dog Aug 2017 #20

Did she commit suicide? hurple Aug 2017 #21

WTF heaven05 Aug 2017 #49

I think they just mean the press will never be satisfied caraher Aug 2017 #52

No. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #73

I mean hurple Aug 2017 #83

Does she have to do the walk of atonement? dbackjon Aug 2017 #22

How about we all quit talking bout Hillary tiredtoo Aug 2017 #23

Take it up with the admins. Maybe you can convince them to make it a TOS violation emulatorloo Aug 2017 #32

Lol JHan Aug 2017 #48

You can talk about whatever you'd like, but kindly... lapucelle Aug 2017 #42

How about we talk about the woman we love all we want to? leftofcool Aug 2017 #55

+100 narnian60 Aug 2017 #61

It's not about anybody "abasing themselves" Ken Burch Aug 2017 #24

This isn't a matter of the "next time", it's a matter of whether or not she has done enough yet.... George II Aug 2017 #44

What I'm saying is that she, for bad or for good, is simply no longer the point. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #62

But that's not the point of the OP or this discussion. George II Aug 2017 #63

From what I can see, the point of the OP is to equate any critical comments on the '16 campaign... Ken Burch Aug 2017 #66

Hillary will always be a point for me. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #67

I wasn't saying you should stop admiring or defending HRC. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #69

Well sheshe2 Aug 2017 #70

I didn't mean the "Hill hate" from Fox. i wasn't talking about that at all. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #74

Oh FFS! NastyRiffraff Aug 2017 #50

I just said I didn't want her to apologize. It's not about her at all Ken Burch Aug 2017 #65

We did not run "stay the course" in 2016. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #71

That's not what I meant. Ken Burch Aug 2017 #75

Your words. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #76

The platform was progressive; the fall campaign strategy that largely ignored the platform wasn't Ken Burch Aug 2017 #79

I have completely run out BlueMTexpat Aug 2017 #25

i dont give a shit about her critics as they obviously.... samnsara Aug 2017 #27

Only if she did something like Cersei Lannister's naked "walk of shame". procon Aug 2017 #29

Has Trump DEBASED himself sufficiently to alarm his fans? Beartracks Aug 2017 #31

They LIKE it when he debases himself, and he excels at it. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #36

Dunno. I see people on the far right dump on Romney now and then. AtheistCrusader Aug 2017 #35

3,000,000 more votes - Hillary can hold her head high! Gamecock Lefty Aug 2017 #38

Her critics get off on hating Clinton. It's not about logic or facts anymore. Nitram Aug 2017 #39

Hatred for women will Pris Aug 2017 #40

Excellent post. sheshe2 Aug 2017 #47

I have a decoder ring... lapucelle Aug 2017 #60

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Aug 2017 #41

Even this article is actually somewhat unfairly critical of Clinton. StevieM Aug 2017 #45

I worked in PA. lapucelle Aug 2017 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author SethH Aug 2017 #51

Uh, no. leftofcool Aug 2017 #57

I consider that a rude response SethH Aug 2017 #59

Your concern is duly noted, but lapucelle Aug 2017 #64

Abase herself for winning by 3 million votes? Bladewire Aug 2017 #54

Post removed Post removed Aug 2017 #68

This is all messed up apkhgp Aug 2017 #77

No, because Blue_Tires Aug 2017 #80

As long as she stays far away from the spotlight in 2018 geek tragedy Aug 2017 #81

New Clinton Memoir: We All Made Mistakes But You Made Most Of Them Zorro Aug 2017 #82

This: ehrnst Sep 2017 #86