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In reply to the discussion: The Progressive Revolution Is Being Led by a Black Woman [View all]Uncle Joe
(66,125 posts)60. What really happened
Bernie Sanders in the Deep South
Last week, I joined Bernie Sanders in Memphis, Tennessee, and Jackson, Mississippi, to commemorate the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.s assassination. Sanders was overwhelmingly well received by both passersby and the local audiences who came to hear him speak. But so far, the media coverage of his trip has revolved around a brief aside, in which Sanders faulted the Democratic Party for its recent legislative failures:
The business model, if you like, of the Democratic Party for the last 15 years or so has been a failure, said Sanders. People sometimes dont see that because there was a charismatic individual named Barack Obama. He was obviously an extraordinary candidate, brilliant guy. But behind that reality, over the last ten years, Democrats have lost about 1,000 seats in state legislatures all across this country.
Twitter erupted immediately, and critics, like former South Carolina representative Bakari Sellers, accused Sanders of arrogance and of dismissing President Obama. But Thursdays critiques were only loosely tethered to Wednesdays words, which, on their face, were fairly uncontroversial: Who could defend as successful the almost unprecedented loss of legislative seats over the last ten years, or Hillary Clintons defeat to game-show host Donald Trump? In Mississippi, when Sanders called the Democratic Party a failure, the audience erupted into applause. And of course, President Obama was a uniquely charismatic and brilliant president.
In fact, if Beale Street could talk, it would tell a very different story about Bernie Sanders than the now-familiar critique that he is insufficiently sensitive to racial issues. As I walked with Sanders down Memphiss famous thoroughfare, his popularity, including among the predominantly black crowd attending the commemorative festivities, was self-evident. The senator was stopped every few feet by selfie-seekers and admirers. Yes: Perhaps this is to be expected of any politician with a national profile, but given his poor showing in Mississippi during the 2016 Democratic primary, in which he secured less than 17 percent of the black vote, I had thought the senator and his small cohort might go unnoticed. I was wrong.
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/04/what-really-happened-when-bernie-sanders-went-to-mississippi.html
The mistake that you make is in believing that time is static, this isn't the 1960s anymore when corporate CEOs made on average 24 times that of their average workers compared to approximately 300 times today.
That kind of income inequality is unsustainable and these numbers harkens back to the 1920s just prior to the Great Depression.
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Shirley Chisholm said that as a member of the Democratic Party, not someone outside...
George II
Jun 2018
#8
Regardless, whether working from the inside or out for their cause they share something else
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#29
Not "regardless", look at what Shirley Chisholm accomplished in her political career, both locally..
George II
Jun 2018
#32
Everything is relative, Nina Turner is still an ongoing force and the analogy
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#35
Yes, everything is relative. Shirley Chisholm achieved what she did in the 1960s and 1970s.
George II
Jun 2018
#38
And Nina Turner is fighting the good fight during the age of Trump and increased corporate supremacy
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#39
No she isn't in my opinion. What has she done or said about Trump and Republicans?
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#201
Nina Turner burned her bridges and I saw a recent interview with her and see no
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#200
Attacking the Democratic Party is not a positive for unity. The USA has the greatest ever threat to
OnDoutside
Jun 2018
#25
FDR's ( The most successful Democrat and one of our greatest Presidents) Second Bill of Rights
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#146
It's good that you would bring up Stacey Abrams to help make my point again. What do
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#149
Have you seen what Our Revolution has done to DEMOCRATIC candidates that they didn't support?
George II
Jun 2018
#11
I have. That group does more harm than good. It's not a fucking "intervention"... GMAFB!
NurseJackie
Jun 2018
#15
"I believe that the Democratic Party is worth fighting for" guess who said that in response
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#36
RIGHT NOW on a liberal talk show youtube chat OR is being spoken of in glowing terms
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2018
#28
I believe it to be just the opposite as the Democratic Party moves to the left, we
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#46
Everything is relative, if the Abolitionist or Suffragist Movements had been given two years
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#10
By definition Democrats can't be successful during any primary without unseating other Democrats.
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#42
They could run for Republican seats and not Democratic seats...which make no difference in the
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#202
If you read history Abolitionists and Suffragists were laughed at and ridiculed as well. n/t
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#48
Oh, yes! That TOTALLY makes Our Revolution *just like* Abolitionists and Suffragists! :-D
NurseJackie
Jun 2018
#49
The commonality is fighting the good fight when it was't popular with the powers that be. n/t
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#51
Oh, yes! That TOTALLY makes Our Revolution *just like* Abolitionists and Suffragists! :-D
NurseJackie
Jun 2018
#53
I never said they were the same, even the Abolitionist and Suffragists movements weren't "the same"
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#58
Wrong again, this was my original post on this subject to which you responded
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#70
Your meaning was clear. The flattery being heaped onto "Our Revolution" is totally undeserved...
NurseJackie
Jun 2018
#74
If you want to get technical sheshe, slavery still exists to this day but as an institution
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#85
I didn't see a link to any article regarding to what you're referring to? n/t
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#96
Fighting the powers that be is the only commonality that OR has with them...(nt)
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#134
You must be furious with the DNC/DCCC for losing over 1000 seats over the last 8 years!
Indepatriot
Jun 2018
#115
I am furious with the purity types who failed to show up at midterms and got us GOP run states,
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#205
As is the case with most every startup, it does have growing pains but yes I believe it's a success
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#24
They will claim victory for a candidate that was up 10 points in a safe Democratic race.
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#139
That brings me to a D.U. poll which I posted here on May 29th as to priorities and an MLK
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#14
Well apparently the American People disagree with your assessment as to Bernie's worth or value
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#22
Oh God, THAT poll again!! Have you read the methodology of that (9 month old) poll?
George II
Jun 2018
#30
That poll is not an island in the ocean, Bernie's poll rankings have him consistently ranked
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#33
I had a bet with a UK bookie that this poll would show up here sooner or later...
George II
Jun 2018
#61
I believe you misread your own post, it has Bernie in second place not third. As for Bernie's record
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#78
It's too bad they didn't take Bernie seriously when he argued against going to war with Iraq,
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#87
And you're leaving off about the disastrous decision to wage a war with Iraq for no good reason.
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#109
Old news...and as an independent from a small state, he didn't have to worry about getting
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#206
Funny that this editorial fails to point out the 2nd and 3rd most "popular" politicians.
OilemFirchen
Jun 2018
#76
Go by Gothmog's poll then on post 54, it has Bernie in second place behind former
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#94
That data is old. BS has not appeared on the most popular list since January.
lapucelle
Jun 2018
#124
NT: I don't think it is our job nor our obligation to fit in. It's their job to fit in with us.
OnDoutside
Jun 2018
#62
Exactly right! She's in-it for herself and nobody else. Vanity-based showboating...
NurseJackie
Jun 2018
#40
That's funny the thing about perception because by your posts on this thread, I thought
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#59
You're responding to a post I made on June 4th and acting as if I just posted this?
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#226
These people literally exhumed Zombie Dennis Kucinich and ran him in a race
Blue_Tires
Jun 2018
#179
OPINION: Mississippi Women's Activist - Bernie Sanders Can't Come to the Cookout
Gothmog
Jun 2018
#98
Well that's the wonderful thing about America everyone is entitled to their opinion
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#101
Bernie may or may not run and Our Revolution may or may succeed but it's too early to tell on either
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#111
Appreciate the article, UJ. Keep the faith; we all face common challenge now.
appalachiablue
Jun 2018
#112
It was those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee that helped
still_one
Jun 2018
#117
The fact that some progressives were upset with John has nothing to do with Nina's support of Stacy
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#145
I don't consider anyone who boos any mention of John Lewis to be "progressive."
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#148
I supplied the record reflecting Nina's endorsement and pleas for supporting Stacy
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#150
So Bernie and OR are responsible for "making a more friendly atmosphere" for Abrams.
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#165
The major difference in Medicare for all and for profit private "health" insurance coverage
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#189
No when you remove the profit motive from deciding who lives and who dies, it's about health care
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#191
Private for profit health insurance corporations have NOTHING to do with health care,
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#193
No, because the U.S. government isn't or at least shouldn't be in the business of making profit
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#195
I believe Stacey Abrams to be a progressive leader as well but it was the Root's title and
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#153
It's good that you would bring up Paul Wellstone to help make my point but i agree with you
Uncle Joe
Jun 2018
#159
Yes, RandySF, you are correct. Stacy Abrams is the Real Voice of the Democratic Progressive Party
Wwcd
Jun 2018
#161
I despise Nina Turner...and I wouldn't have anything to do with anything she is involved in.
Demsrule86
Jun 2018
#199
Our Revolution had wins in last week's primaries. They aren't batting as bad as you want to pretend
JCanete
Aug 2018
#228
So you are making a distinction about where Our Revolution has been succesful or a failure, not
JCanete
Aug 2018
#231
LOL! Perhaps you were just enthralled by the head line and didn't read the entire article?
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#214
The first time I ran in a marathon (NYC in 1976) I had to drop out after ten miles.
George II
Aug 2018
#221