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Gothmog

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105. And yet Sanders delegates attacked a true hero, John Lewis

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 08:34 PM

Jun 2018

I was at the National Convention. The Clinton delegates were warned about about sanders delegates plan to boo Congressman John Lewis 20 to 30 minutes before it occurred. This was a planned stunt and sanders was evidently told about this stunt but took no action. Again, the Texas delegation shared a bus line with the Georgia delegation. There were some pissed off members of the Georgia delegation. It would be fun to see sanders run in the areas where Congressman John Lewis is treated as a national treasure. My whip would be happy to appear in a commercial on this.

I have heard Congressman John Lewis tell his "preaching to chicken" story four times in person. If I had to decide between sanders and Congressman Lewis, I can tell who I would support.

Again, sanders will never release his tax returns and I expect Our Revolution to fall apart long before sanders announces that he is not running in 2020.

You can pretend that Our Revolution is a real movement and I will continue to support real democrats who will actually accomplish something if elected

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The Progressive Revolution Is Being Led by a Black Woman [View all] Uncle Joe Jun 2018 OP

Turner is poison, and no friend of the Democratic Party. We've seen OnDoutside Jun 2018 #1

What some see as hate others see as intervention Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #2

Shirley Chisholm said that as a member of the Democratic Party, not someone outside... George II Jun 2018 #8

Regardless, whether working from the inside or out for their cause they share something else Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #29

Not "regardless", look at what Shirley Chisholm accomplished in her political career, both locally.. George II Jun 2018 #32

Everything is relative, Nina Turner is still an ongoing force and the analogy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #35

Yes, everything is relative. Shirley Chisholm achieved what she did in the 1960s and 1970s. George II Jun 2018 #38

And Nina Turner is fighting the good fight during the age of Trump and increased corporate supremacy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #39

No she isn't in my opinion. What has she done or said about Trump and Republicans? Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #201

She is? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #223

Nina Turner burned her bridges and I saw a recent interview with her and see no Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #200

Attacking the Democratic Party is not a positive for unity. The USA has the greatest ever threat to OnDoutside Jun 2018 #25

One person's attack is another person's constructive criticism. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #45

In this case, the "another person" is Donald Trump. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #63

If you can't differentiate between the two, then God help you. Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #178

No. They are two wholly separate concepts. LanternWaste Jun 2018 #182

They are separate concepts but perception can and does play a major role in Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #212

No, she has personality problems. People who CAN Hortensis Jun 2018 #144

FDR's ( The most successful Democrat and one of our greatest Presidents) Second Bill of Rights Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #146

No, we did NOT, but which would be the greater insult? Hortensis Jun 2018 #147

It's good that you would bring up Stacey Abrams to help make my point again. What do Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #149

Pissing on Obama and the Clintons isn't creative or independent Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #173

OR is a hate group. murielm99 Jun 2018 #3

Do you mean like this guy? Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #4

Have you seen what Our Revolution has done to DEMOCRATIC candidates that they didn't support? George II Jun 2018 #11

I have. That group does more harm than good. It's not a fucking "intervention"... GMAFB! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #15

Sad that they attack DEMOCRATIC opponents on the basis of their race! George II Jun 2018 #17

Yes, and undoubtedly Skidmore Jun 2018 #23

"I believe that the Democratic Party is worth fighting for" guess who said that in response Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #36

Actions speak louder Skidmore Jun 2018 #69

Of course you do Skidmore as does everyone else. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #71

RIGHT NOW on a liberal talk show youtube chat OR is being spoken of in glowing terms Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #28

I believe it to be just the opposite as the Democratic Party moves to the left, we Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #46

Has any OR candidates won anything yet? Gothmog Jun 2018 #5

Did you not read the OP? Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #6

You consider this success? Gothmog Jun 2018 #7

Everything is relative, if the Abolitionist or Suffragist Movements had been given two years Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #10

Bernie's army in disarray Gothmog Jun 2018 #12

I have read it but I disagree with it Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #19

Denial is not just a river in Africa Gothmog Jun 2018 #20

By definition OR cant be successful unless Democrats are unseated. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #31

By definition Democrats can't be successful during any primary without unseating other Democrats. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #42

They could run for Republican seats and not Democratic seats...which make no difference in the Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #202

I get tired of this real Democrat stuff JonLP24 Aug 2018 #229

Ha!! :-D Comparing "OR" with Abolitionists and Suffragists?? NurseJackie Jun 2018 #18

I was amused also Gothmog Jun 2018 #21

I am exhausted, figthing KGB, GOP and you know who...too much Eliot Rosewater Jun 2018 #44

If you read history Abolitionists and Suffragists were laughed at and ridiculed as well. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #48

Oh, yes! That TOTALLY makes Our Revolution *just like* Abolitionists and Suffragists! :-D NurseJackie Jun 2018 #49

The commonality is fighting the good fight when it was't popular with the powers that be. n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #51

Oh, yes! That TOTALLY makes Our Revolution *just like* Abolitionists and Suffragists! :-D NurseJackie Jun 2018 #53

I never said they were the same, even the Abolitionist and Suffragists movements weren't "the same" Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #58

Oh, bull! Your meaning was clear! Stop splitting hairs! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #66

Wrong again, this was my original post on this subject to which you responded Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #70

Your meaning was clear. The flattery being heaped onto "Our Revolution" is totally undeserved... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #74

Well then we are making progress, you do acknowledge it's a free country Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #75

Oh, good Lord. GMAFB! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #79

This is a waste of time, enjoy your "real world" Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #83

Why is this kind of nonsense allowed here? WIProgressive88 Jun 2018 #120

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #126

And slavery did not end until the start of WWII sheshe2 Jun 2018 #80

If you want to get technical sheshe, slavery still exists to this day but as an institution Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #85

Well of course it is still going on...different name different game. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #93

I didn't see a link to any article regarding to what you're referring to? n/t Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #96

I read the book. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #102

I knew about Jim Crow but thanks for the links sheshe. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #103

I stated that above, it still exists. sheshe2 Jun 2018 #108

I will check the book out. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #110

Fighting the powers that be is the only commonality that OR has with them...(nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #134

But they hired a Trumper so they don't really fight the powers that be... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #204

True this. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #207

They hired a Trumper who agrees with Trump on immigration. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #203

You must be furious with the DNC/DCCC for losing over 1000 seats over the last 8 years! Indepatriot Jun 2018 #115

So, gerrymandering and voter suppression had nothing to do with it... ehrnst Jun 2018 #131

bwahahahahaha!!!! George II Jun 2018 #143

I am furious with the purity types who failed to show up at midterms and got us GOP run states, Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #205

Here are some more findings from the Politico article Gothmog Jun 2018 #13

As is the case with most every startup, it does have growing pains but yes I believe it's a success Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #24

"...startup..." Ha! NurseJackie Jun 2018 #90

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2018 #130

OR has not won any significant victories and is a joke Gothmog Jun 2018 #138

They will claim victory for a candidate that was up 10 points in a safe Democratic race. ehrnst Jun 2018 #139

I seriously doubt that this organization will be around long Gothmog Jun 2018 #140

I know Bankston. If he says its BS, its BS. elehhhhna Jun 2018 #155

Speaking of good reads, here's one as well (CM is the interviewer): George II Jun 2018 #9

That brings me to a D.U. poll which I posted here on May 29th as to priorities and an MLK Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #14

Has sanders ever accomplished anything in the real world? Gothmog Jun 2018 #16

Well apparently the American People disagree with your assessment as to Bernie's worth or value Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #22

Oh God, THAT poll again!! Have you read the methodology of that (9 month old) poll? George II Jun 2018 #30

That poll is not an island in the ocean, Bernie's poll rankings have him consistently ranked Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #33

... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #41

... Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #43

I had a bet with a UK bookie that this poll would show up here sooner or later... George II Jun 2018 #61

My town (Hempstead, NY) has more people in it and is mor diverse. N/T lapucelle Jun 2018 #136

So you are admitting that sanders has no legislative accomplishments Gothmog Jun 2018 #54

I believe you misread your own post, it has Bernie in second place not third. As for Bernie's record Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #78

Thank you for the laughs Gothmog Jun 2018 #84

It's too bad they didn't take Bernie seriously when he argued against going to war with Iraq, Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #87

Again, you keep leaving off all of the post offices that sanders has named Gothmog Jun 2018 #95

And you're leaving off about the disastrous decision to wage a war with Iraq for no good reason. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #109

And yet he voted to fund the war each and every time it came up. George II Jun 2018 #116

Seems to me that voting against the war and then voting to fund it is ... betsuni Jun 2018 #123

Old news...and as an independent from a small state, he didn't have to worry about getting Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #206

Funny that this editorial fails to point out the 2nd and 3rd most "popular" politicians. OilemFirchen Jun 2018 #76

About that poll sheshe2 Jun 2018 #91

Go by Gothmog's poll then on post 54, it has Bernie in second place behind former Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #94

That data is old. BS has not appeared on the most popular list since January. lapucelle Jun 2018 #124

NT: I don't think it is our job nor our obligation to fit in. It's their job to fit in with us. OnDoutside Jun 2018 #62

smh samnsara Jun 2018 #26

Turner is a divisive figure and no leader still_one Jun 2018 #27

Exactly right! She's in-it for herself and nobody else. Vanity-based showboating... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #40

Bingo. (NT) ehrnst Jun 2018 #135

Thank you Uncle Joe! MuseRider Jun 2018 #34

Precisely MuseRider, a forest doesn't grow overnight. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #37

Slash-and-burn is not the way to "grow a forest"... NurseJackie Jun 2018 #47

Actually fire is natural and essential to a healthy forest Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #50

Ha!! :-D That's not what "slash and burn" means NurseJackie Jun 2018 #52

That's funny the thing about perception because by your posts on this thread, I thought Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #59

Uh-huh. Yes. Of course you did. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #67

Didn't he get in trouble masturbating in a porno movie theater? Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #81

Don't know. Don't care. Irrelevant. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #86

There was "no subject" Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #88

Then why did you try to change it? NurseJackie Jun 2018 #92

OMG sheshe2 Aug 2018 #224

You're responding to a post I made on June 4th and acting as if I just posted this? Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #226

LOL Gothmog Jun 2018 #163

These people literally exhumed Zombie Dennis Kucinich and ran him in a race Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #179

Every Time I See Trump's Ugly Face, I See .... DoctorJoJo Jun 2018 #55

Agreed Gothmog Jun 2018 #57

Yes, and every time I read those names I Cha Jun 2018 #141

Where Is The Bernie Revolution? Gothmog Jun 2018 #56

What really happened Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #60

I was a delegate to the national convention Gothmog Jun 2018 #68

OPINION: Mississippi Women's Activist - Bernie Sanders Can't Come to the Cookout Gothmog Jun 2018 #98

Well that's the wonderful thing about America everyone is entitled to their opinion Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #101

And yet Sanders delegates attacked a true hero, John Lewis Gothmog Jun 2018 #105

Bernie may or may not run and Our Revolution may or may succeed but it's too early to tell on either Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #111

Our Revolution is not a serious movement in the real world Gothmog Jun 2018 #128

Nobody claimed otherwise. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #106

Is this some sort of bad joke? comradebillyboy Jun 2018 #64

No it's an article about Nina Turner and Our Revolution Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #72

TRANSLATION: Yes. It's a joke. A bad joke. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #97

I thought you might like this video NurseJackie Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #99

You thought wrong. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #100

It was about nurses and stuff so I thought you might like it Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #104

You thought wrong. NurseJackie Jun 2018 #107

This makes me smile Gothmog Jun 2018 #164

Nina 'I Could Vote For Republicans' Turner? Me. Jun 2018 #65

Nina Turner "I believe the Democratic Party is worth fighting for Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #73

Past Lives Don't Count Me. Jun 2018 #77

Via "Our Revolution?" ehrnst Jun 2018 #137

Uncle Joe Kurt V. Jun 2018 #82

Thank you for the kind words Kurt V Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #89

Appreciate the article, UJ. Keep the faith; we all face common challenge now. appalachiablue Jun 2018 #112

I will in regards to the former and I agree with you on the latter Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #113

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #114

It was those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic nominee that helped still_one Jun 2018 #117

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #118

What "myriad of mistakes"? betsuni Jun 2018 #121

Post removed Post removed Jun 2018 #119

No it's not. OilemFirchen Jun 2018 #122

Kick ck4829 Jun 2018 #125

Bernie Sanders' Revolution Isn't Carrying His Candidates Through The Midterms Gothmog Jun 2018 #127

Stacey Abrams was booed by the "progressive left" at the Dem Convention ehrnst Jun 2018 #129

A logical fallacy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #132

What part of my statement was fallacious or illogical? ehrnst Jun 2018 #133

The fact that some progressives were upset with John has nothing to do with Nina's support of Stacy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #145

I don't consider anyone who boos any mention of John Lewis to be "progressive." ehrnst Jun 2018 #148

I supplied the record reflecting Nina's endorsement and pleas for supporting Stacy Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #150

You seemed to be confused as to what I said. ehrnst Jun 2018 #156

Your're correct about one thing, Stacey is a good candidate Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #158

So Bernie and OR are responsible for "making a more friendly atmosphere" for Abrams. ehrnst Jun 2018 #165

You didn't, Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #169

Sanders had no effect on the Georgia race Gothmog Jun 2018 #170

Would you define for me what you mean by "status quo?" ehrnst Jun 2018 #171

Thank you for asking ehrnst Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #183

Thank you for your explanation. ehrnst Jun 2018 #184

Social justice has taken two steps forward and one step back, at best Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #185

So, because there are backlashes against social justice progress ehrnst Jun 2018 #186

There has been progress made particularly as of late Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #187

Medicare for All IS about health care coverage..... ehrnst Jun 2018 #188

The major difference in Medicare for all and for profit private "health" insurance coverage Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #189

So you agree - Medicare For All is about health care coverage. ehrnst Jun 2018 #190

No when you remove the profit motive from deciding who lives and who dies, it's about health care Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #191

You mean "institutionalized" in the way that right wingers mean abortion ehrnst Jun 2018 #192

Private for profit health insurance corporations have NOTHING to do with health care, Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #193

They have as much to do with healthcare as the government does with Medicare. ehrnst Jun 2018 #194

No, because the U.S. government isn't or at least shouldn't be in the business of making profit Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #195

Slurs? What drama. ehrnst Jun 2018 #196

.. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #197

... ehrnst Jun 2018 #198

Oh sure, NOW they need her. Wwcd Jun 2018 #154

Last night was fun Gothmog Jun 2018 #166

Yes, Hillary invited Stacy Abrams to speak at the DNC Cha Jun 2018 #142

I thought you meant greymattermom Jun 2018 #151

I believe Stacey Abrams to be a progressive leader as well but it was the Root's title and Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #153

Progressive & Democratic are two closely woven beliefs of one political party Wwcd Jun 2018 #157

It's good that you would bring up Paul Wellstone to help make my point but i agree with you Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #159

Thanks for making my point. Reminds me of another group who Wwcd Jun 2018 #160

"Wellstone and the War" Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #168

No, Stacy Abrams RandySF Jun 2018 #152

Yes, RandySF, you are correct. Stacy Abrams is the Real Voice of the Democratic Progressive Party Wwcd Jun 2018 #161

Our Revolution is not doing well Gothmog Jun 2018 #162

Analysis: How did Bernie Sanders Democrats do in the primaries? Gothmog Jun 2018 #167

Nina Fucking Turner? You trying to wind me up? Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #172

*Groan* You're really going to make me do this, aren't you?? Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #174

Believe me Uncle Joe, this is not a horse you want to back... Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #175

not a nina fan for sure. shes only leading herself. samnsara Jun 2018 #176

Two years ago, the "Progressive Revolution" among pundits was being led by Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #177

Why is the punditsphere so eager to coronate Blue_Tires Jun 2018 #180

K&R... disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #181

I despise Nina Turner...and I wouldn't have anything to do with anything she is involved in. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #199

Luckily, this organization is falling apart in part due to Nina Turner Gothmog Jun 2018 #209

It is a bad organization...and I agree with everything you said. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #210

Economist--Berned out Gothmog Jun 2018 #208

Did Our Revolution endorsed any candidates for tonight's primaries Gothmog Jun 2018 #211

Our Revolution had wins in last week's primaries. They aren't batting as bad as you want to pretend JCanete Aug 2018 #228

LOL Gothmog Aug 2018 #230

So you are making a distinction about where Our Revolution has been succesful or a failure, not JCanete Aug 2018 #231

I am so glad that Emily's list is beating Our Revolution and beating it badly Gothmog Aug 2018 #232

Some more smiles Gothmog Aug 2018 #233

Looks like the revolution didn't do too well in Hawaii, despite sending AOC. Gothmog Aug 2018 #234

Bernie and his army are losing 2018 Gothmog Aug 2018 #213

LOL! Perhaps you were just enthralled by the head line and didn't read the entire article? Uncle Joe Aug 2018 #214

LOL Gothmog Aug 2018 #215

I missed this earlier, but I see upthread brer cat Aug 2018 #219

He tagged her a few days before she won? sheshe2 Aug 2018 #222

This makes me smile Gothmog Aug 2018 #220

The first time I ran in a marathon (NYC in 1976) I had to drop out after ten miles. George II Aug 2018 #221

Democratic Party's liberal insurgency hits a wall in Midwest primaries Gothmog Aug 2018 #216

Hell yes! sheshe2 Aug 2018 #217

Down Goes Socialism Gothmog Aug 2018 #218

Read sheshe2 Aug 2018 #225

The Far Left Is Losing Gothmog Aug 2018 #227