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Igel

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3. People--esp. politicians--learn how to use language for implicit solidarity.
Tue Dec 24, 2019, 06:43 PM
Dec 2019

Thatcher was working class. She learned RP to be perceived as middle class.

Blair was middle class. He struggled to master lower-class varieties so as to disguise his origins.

Buckley was from Boston, which the writer thinks of as "mid-Atlantic." That used to be called "New England" before New York City became part of the South, and the pinebarrens the Deep South. (After all, Georgia had pine trees, NJ has pine trees, NJ = Georgia).

Obama grew up in HI. He was raised by white people. He spent a lot of time overseas. And yet he spoke AAEV, and when he spoke he could go back and forth effortlessly, by audience, between different varieties. Listen to his speech, and you know what his audience is without needing a recording. Now it's tinged with southern black preacher a la King, now he sounds Harvard-educated, now he sounds like he's just an average white joe and now he sounds like he was raised in Compton.

"But it's so obviously juvenile" is hardly the point. Many took the "bait." It's just noticeable when (a) you're not trained to focus on language variation or (b) you're focused on content and not form or (c) you don't look for things to be critical of. (b) and (c) tend to co-occur, but they're not the same thing.

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OTOH, I am a liberal Democrat living in the Pacific Northwest who can slip into his original Aristus Dec 2019 #1
bet you can... handmade34 Dec 2019 #5
I always find it funny that I use an accent often equated with poor intellect Aristus Dec 2019 #6
I can't help it, Aristus Skittles Dec 2019 #7
Even so, Southerners can take a short one-syllable word, and turn it into a long Aristus Dec 2019 #8
in NC, I heard "boiled eggs" as BALD EGGS Skittles Dec 2019 #10
In Texas, it's 'boled eggs'. Aristus Dec 2019 #11
I still remember someone in Texas asking me for a pen Skittles Dec 2019 #12
Yeah. Aristus Dec 2019 #13
I would have probably attacked someone for making it two syllables Skittles Dec 2019 #14
I know. Aristus Dec 2019 #15
I don't mind southern accents as long as they don't speak SLOOOOOOOOOOWLY Skittles Dec 2019 #16
That's not me. Aristus Dec 2019 #17
actually, when I think about it Skittles Dec 2019 #18
And irregardless is not a word, FFS! 🤬 madinmaryland Dec 2019 #19
Uh, OTOH? YOHABLO Dec 2019 #20
Yeah. The piece is about how well-educated conservatives dumb down their speech Aristus Dec 2019 #21
Yes, but it's so obviously juvenile utopian Dec 2019 #2
People--esp. politicians--learn how to use language for implicit solidarity. Igel Dec 2019 #3
It's about more than cheap shots : Mike Niendorff Dec 2019 #4
Heard Senator John Kennedy, who attended Oxford, on the radio last night. Midnight Writer Dec 2019 #9
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