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Igel

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8. Quite the contrary.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jul 2020

The aerosolized particles are the ones that wouldn't fall to the ground.

It's to allow respiratory droplets, with greater density and mass, to fall to the ground.

There have been a variety of super spreading incidents. However

1. they're small in number.
2. they rely on static positioning of people but overlook movement and interactions outside of the positional map
3. some assume no asymptomatic spreading

As for (2), choirs don't file into the space as they arrive, never interacting. They're typically a close-knit community and move around to interact before and after. They pass around things. I've been in choirs. They may stand and sing according to a map (but even then often get moved), but they don't teleport into their positions and then teleport out, a la Star Trek.

Same for buses. Even in restaurants--for Father's Day we went out and made a point of not moving in a straight line in a restaurant if it helped to avoid people. We nonetheless had to get to the table, we each went to the bathroom and back, and we had to leave the restaurant. Others travelled past us. Had we provided a map (in the event of illness) the map would have been fraudulent if we simply indicated "that's where we were." Had there been a vent overhead pushing air down when I sneezed, the droplets would have had not just the velocity from the sneeze but the velocity of the air they were sneezed into. I haven't seen an analysis that assumed anything but still air--mostly because the description of the contexts I've seen didn't include this (crucial) information.

Apart from fear, the critical thinking side still says I need more confirmation. Science is a bear.

One of my favorite quotes is "All models are wrong; some are useful." These model COVID transmission. They're wrong. The only questions are how wrong are they and how useful are they? Model validation is hard.

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Makes sense but why is WHO ignoring it? soothsayer Jul 2020 #1
Perhaps they actually think only two pathways are significant, appalachiablue Jul 2020 #3
Yeah that latter bit soothsayer Jul 2020 #4
I would be leery of air recirculating with HVAC systems... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #5
You know, a perspective on aerosol transmission was published in Science recently. NNadir Jul 2020 #19
I've read papers from several epidemiologists... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #2
Yes, right. Isn't that one of the reasons for social distancing... brush Jul 2020 #7
Quite the contrary. Igel Jul 2020 #8
It was clear that asymptomatic people could spread it long before April. Chemisse Jul 2020 #6
Yes and no. Igel Jul 2020 #9
Do real N95 masks catch stop type of type spread or not? BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #10
They work better at blocking aerosols than droplets... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #11
THANK YOU!!! BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #12
Are her N95 masks uncomfortable or something? Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #13
I don't know what her problem is... BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #15
I plan to keep using mine until it's difficult... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #16
That's what I do too. BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #17
+1 CountAllVotes Jul 2020 #25
This is great! n/t Chemisse Jul 2020 #14
Great video on the N95 mask. Thanks for sharing! Nitram Jul 2020 #20
Great info. CountAllVotes Jul 2020 #24
You can, but it might require some digging around the internet. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #26
Whenever I read a headline from a journalist that begins with the words "Scientists say..." NNadir Jul 2020 #18
Why not contact the writer, and/or appalachiablue Jul 2020 #21
I could write letters like that all day to newspapers and websites... NNadir Jul 2020 #22
Much of US news unfortunately went over to the commercial appalachiablue Jul 2020 #23
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