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nam78_two

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30. Hmmm-I think my next computer will be a mac
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:12 AM
Jan 2021

Last edited Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:44 AM - Edit history (1)

I have to admit to a preference for PCs. But these are important issues and I think I might make a leap to the mac. Mac, Iphone and so on.

Of course one will have to be vigilant with any for profit enterprise because these guys are not great at self-regulation. That is ok-I am not looking high degrees of trust wrt ethics in business transactions with corporations. I just want to deal with businesses which don't come off as pirates. Dealing with creepy and untrustworthy businesses is a time-suck. Dealing with any creeps is a time suck but they aren't quite as prolific in non profits in my experience.

I am starting to have a slightly higher level of trust of Apple as opposed to Facebook, Google and Amazon. Microsoft is probably also creepy and sucky.

The problem is not dispensable garbageware like Facebook. The real issue is the use of the exploitation of what Zuboff has termed "behavioral data surplus" by people selling stuff we cannot remove from our lives Web forums like these are fine for political action. There is no need to use one centralized and tacky website run by a pack of creeps who first exploit ignorance and then try to normalize shady practices and numb awareness through bribery or extortion.

But Tim Cook's speech signals that any software that comes with the Mac/Iphone is likely to be less intrusive than the equivalent on offer with the PC/Android. Computers, an internet connection, a search engine,email- these are no longer dispensable tools and to have them come from all the companies-large or small that mimic Zuckerberg's or Larry Page's unsanitary and creepy practices is just a terrible idea. I would not buy a computer from either of these creeps. I would not get medical care from them or from anyone who behaves like them. I would not like people who behave like this to have government authorization to snoop on citizens. It is a shame that DuckDuckGo and Protonmail are not partnering with Apple to provide email and search engine solutions that protect privacy so that more users can abandon Google/gmail and Google search. I would like to opt out of data harvesting. A focus on real and complete privacy without further tolerance of sleazy groups, companies and people who are too far gone to establish trust with. Who have not paid at all for practices that have egregiously abused trust repeatedly for more than a decade now. At least I'd like the option of punishing such people with one's wallet first while waiting for government regulations to crack down on them.

Without surveillance equipment and snooping, lots of people can do the layman's version of behavioral science-i.e. a necessary evaluation inside one's head of the trustworthiness or creepiness of people or systems they deal with. The role all these companies played in radicalizing people and inciting violence should not be ignored any more than the overt malice of the GOP.

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We Can Only Hope leftieNanner Jan 2021 #1
I have the feeling that the Biden Admin will BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #9
The look on Zuckerberg's face there ShazzieB Jan 2021 #18
He looks somewhat like Jared K. DemoTex Jan 2021 #20
Assholes are a dime a dozen... Chicago1980 Jan 2021 #45
The look on Zuckerberg's face drmeow Jan 2021 #62
I saw on BBC that the Biden administration is targeting Facebook nam78_two Jan 2021 #31
there's a metaphore or something for you in there.... Locrian Jan 2021 #37
well, thank you Tim Cook NJCher Jan 2021 #2
Exaggerate much? FB isn't going anywhere. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2021 #3
He's making people think of the consequences though. And putting Zuckerberg on notice... brush Jan 2021 #4
In that case, Biden needs to do something about fox propaganda and oann, and the like. BComplex Jan 2021 #43
Agreed. No argument with that here. brush Jan 2021 #54
Pretty sure thar our pres cannot do anything but tell me if I am wrong and how that might efhmc Jan 2021 #61
Agreed. TwilightZone Jan 2021 #6
It might however get them to reconsider their cstanleytech Jan 2021 #32
Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2021 #46
Hyperbole Archetypist Jan 2021 #5
I don't see how this ends FB Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #7
It needs to end doing business the way it has Warpy Jan 2021 #15
It could open the door to a new competitor Auggie Jan 2021 #40
Facebook took down MySpace Wawannabe Jan 2021 #50
I don't mind someone advertising to me or knowing my demographic based on my interests Auggie Jan 2021 #58
No, this isn't the end of FB. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #8
amen Riverman100 Jan 2021 #19
👍👍👍👍 x 1000 Karma13612 Jan 2021 #23
You turn a blind eye to what the bad is when you glow about it this way Wawannabe Jan 2021 #42
There are lots of reasons people go to Facebook. flying_wahini Jan 2021 #47
See post 41 Wawannabe Jan 2021 #48
Gosh, how have I missed out on being used, stalked, and entrenched? PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2021 #60
See also post 9 Wawannabe Jan 2021 #51
Yes. stage left Jan 2021 #59
+1 Facebook ChazII Feb 2021 #64
What he's saying, basically, is public airwaves should serve the public good bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #10
I like the way you put this. Makes me think we should brand social media outlets as users c-rational Jan 2021 #14
I'd like to require ALL of them to have public interest summer_in_TX Jan 2021 #28
If memory serves correct, Michael Powell, son of Collin had a seat on the FCC in early bush years, c-rational Jan 2021 #44
A good letter summer_in_TX Feb 2021 #63
Let's illustrate with an example, where a group decides that traffic lights bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #39
Good Example Frerotte Jan 2021 #55
Great point Kitchari Jan 2021 #17
Precisely. Karma13612 Jan 2021 #25
Great interpretation. KPN Jan 2021 #27
I only wish you were right. Control-Z Jan 2021 #11
Dramatic clickbait headline IronLionZion Jan 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author BadgerMom Jan 2021 #13
Bravo Mr Cook. BlueIdaho Jan 2021 #16
Cook may not have ended Facebook kurtcagle Jan 2021 #21
Zuckerberg is a jerk. Instead of asking whether we CAN do something, maybe PatrickforO Jan 2021 #22
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #24
That's a lofty may have ... how many Tom Cook's are there KPN Jan 2021 #26
Amen. "May there be many more..." Duppers Jan 2021 #29
Hmmm-I think my next computer will be a mac nam78_two Jan 2021 #30
the latest macOS versions have a much better privacy wrapper Layzeebeaver Jan 2021 #34
Thanks - I do think I will switch to the mac nam78_two Jan 2021 #38
Apple cannot "End" farcebook Layzeebeaver Jan 2021 #33
I doubt it. NurseJackie Jan 2021 #35
Next up Tim Cook may have ended hammers and saw's whistler162 Jan 2021 #36
But my family! Wawannabe Jan 2021 #41
All I need to know about FB Oldem Jan 2021 #49
I agree with everything you said nam78_two Jan 2021 #53
Thanks for that. Oldem Jan 2021 #56
I don't use FB all that much, and that use is diminishing. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #52
I waste no more than 15 minutes per week on FB RainCaster Jan 2021 #57
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