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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

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Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:12 PM Jan 2021

Something went terribly wrong with Trump's defense [View all]

Just over a week before the start of his second impeachment trial, former President Donald Trump's entire legal team has walked away. What already promised to be an unpredictable and unprecedented show on the Senate floor just got even messier, as it appears that Trump will insist on repeating the same dangerous lie that sparked the Capitol riot -- that the election was stolen from him -- and led to his (second) impeachment in the first place.

Here's what we know. The mass resignations of all five of Trump's lawyers show us something has gone terribly wrong on the defense team. And these lawyers were no hacks -- several of them are Justice Department alums, and the (former) lead attorney, Butch Bowers, was a government ethics specialist. They would not abandon a client this close to trial without darn good reason.

Any defense attorney holds a broad obligation to represent his or her client zealously. That's a crucial part of our adversarial justice system. But there are limits on what a defense attorney can argue. For example, per the American Bar Association, it would be unethical for any attorney to raise an argument "that he knows to be false." The "rigged election" narrative certainly fits that description.

It's telling that the source of the falling-out between Trump and his (former) lawyers was his insistence that they raise the "stolen election" defense. Trump's defenders certainly could have argued in good faith and within ethical boundaries that it is unconstitutional to hold an impeachment trial for a former president, or that Trump's actions were protected political speech under the First Amendment. I disagree with both of these arguments on the merits, but Trump and his attorneys certainly would have been within their rights to make these claims before the Senate. But the "stolen election" argument crosses a line.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/something-went-terribly-wrong-with-trumps-defense-opinion/ar-BB1dgm3V?li=BBnb7Kz

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Trumps wants the lawyers to say the election was stolen from him. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #1
I'm hoping he does find cult lawyers who will do just that Skittles Jan 2021 #3
I think they can be sanctioned or lose their license. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #6
Yes. Lawyers can lie all day long, but they can't do that in a courtroom. OMGWTF Jan 2021 #15
Even Rudy G knew not to make that mistake. calimary Jan 2021 #27
Exactly. Just to whip up the crazy fucks to do it for them. onecaliberal Jan 2021 #34
No one? I think Lin Wood and Sidney Powell would... dchill Jan 2021 #8
Even They Wouldn't Do It Pro Bono COL Mustard Jan 2021 #45
Maybe Timewas Jan 2021 #2
THIS - Because we know Trump Tiger8 Jan 2021 #39
Every attorney he has ever hired knows louis-t Feb 2021 #54
trump really is crazy. Still insisting that election was stolen shows that he's completely over... brush Jan 2021 #4
Exactly. He really believes it. mn9driver Jan 2021 #9
Before he ran for office his crazy talk wasn't recorded. I think it is easy for an insane person LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #16
So, who's batshit crazier: Trump or his supporters? Nitram Jan 2021 #25
I would guess the craziness is self-replicating. Maybe one of those virus things. LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #26
The key to remember with these folks: NOBODY wants to admit they were wrong. calimary Jan 2021 #28
OH I know that. They are the same ones who will drink a case of beer, drive their truck fast LiberalArkie Jan 2021 #33
Or wants to keep the grift spigot flowing central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #10
digusting isn't it? mdbl Jan 2021 #18
Thanks for posting this.It explains a whole lot. Please read entire article. K & R Stuart G Jan 2021 #5
Boisterous, bloviating buffoon. magicarpet Jan 2021 #7
I restocked our popcorn supply for the trial yellowdogintexas Jan 2021 #11
Me Too Stuart G Jan 2021 #12
Oh, we will need huge amounts of popcorn! 🍿 ShazzieB Jan 2021 #31
Bwah! 👏👏👏👏👏😂😂😂 electric_blue68 Feb 2021 #52
He doesn't need a defense Loge23 Jan 2021 #13
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #19
Experienced Lawyers leanforward Jan 2021 #14
As any attorney he has hired for the last 30 years knows louis-t Jan 2021 #17
so true, makes for a sh%$$y client mdbl Jan 2021 #29
this way he can skip the trial all together Bmoboy Jan 2021 #20
Yes, even if he is convicted Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #24
Mr. Bill DENVERPOPS Jan 2021 #36
The president's children do not get Secret Service protection Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #38
Not sure DENVERPOPS Jan 2021 #48
You are correct. I looked it up. Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #49
Yep. He will campaign and hold rallies no matter what Walleye Jan 2021 #42
donnie doTURD believes the "stolen election" argument doesn't cross any lines KS Toronado Jan 2021 #21
When they went to Mar-a-Laga to meet with him Mr.Bill Jan 2021 #22
Actually DENVERPOPS Jan 2021 #37
Wait, I thought there was a Palm Beach restriction yonder Jan 2021 #43
These lawyers have to continue their careers after this.... Jon King Jan 2021 #23
And nobody wants bad publicity, either. calimary Jan 2021 #51
Good post on EmptyWheel. Apparently erronis Jan 2021 #30
What next? Aussie105 Jan 2021 #32
Trump wants to do the same thing Hitler did at his trial after the PatrickforO Jan 2021 #35
Get him to testify, under oath before congress The Animator Jan 2021 #40
He's so stupid. He could save a lot of money and just offer no defense. bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #41
He won't need a defense team. The GOP will never C Moon Jan 2021 #44
Perhaps sucking the oxygen out of the room and don't allow trump any airtime would be the best SWBTATTReg Jan 2021 #46
There are other "fine" lawyers mgardener Jan 2021 #47
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #50
The first impeachment seems so quaint now. chriscan64 Feb 2021 #53
It's hard to defend someone who defends himself by throwing motive at the DA's feet. marble falls Feb 2021 #55
I assumed it was because they asked for a retainer up front tclambert Feb 2021 #56
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