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Fiendish Thingy

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34. Walk me through the process of partitioning the US, including financial, geographic and military

Fri Dec 17, 2021, 10:09 PM

Dec 2021

It wouldn’t be a Mason-Dixon division, more like the coasts and some of the rust belt split from the south and plains states, but even that doesn’t seem be feasible for a clean division.

Important questions to consider:

How is the military divided and funded, who gets nukes, planes, ships?
What happens to Social Security, Medicare, etc?

It’s unanswerable-in-a-hypothetical questions like these that make me seriously sceptical that the US would ever be able to peacefully splinter into multiple nations.

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Opinion: 'We Are Closer To Civil War Than Any Of Us Would Like To Believe,' New Study Says [View all] appalachiablue Dec 2021 OP

Did Walter study civil war within nations with nuclear weapons? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #1

Gravy Seals! WestIndianArchie Dec 2021 #7

A big, and dubious, assumption here dpibel Dec 2021 #12

As I said a military coup/occupation is more likely than a civil war Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #16

Plausible as well, esp. The Troubles.. appalachiablue Dec 2021 #24

These guys might know how the system works dpibel Dec 2021 #63

The Air Force Academy is a Hotbed of Radical Christianity Tommymac Dec 2021 #35

Looks like a big chunk of the military leadership Martin Eden Dec 2021 #51

This! PortTack Dec 2021 #30

How about this time let's just let the South secede. aeromanKC Dec 2021 #2

So what happens to liberal strongholds like Atlanta, Austin, etc? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #17

In most civil wars, refugees flee hostile areas and relocate. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #22

Do you envision and Afghanistan-style evacuation? Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #23

No other country will come to our aid if the US has a civil war. Irish_Dem Dec 2021 #26

See the partition of India shortly after their independence. paleotn Dec 2021 #31

Walk me through the process of partitioning the US, including financial, geographic and military Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #34

Who said peaceful? dpibel Dec 2021 #40

Sometimes it is. The Soviet breakup was peaceful overall. paleotn Dec 2021 #42

But there were complex negotiations around division/destruction of nukes when the USSR dissolved. Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #47

Yep. Isn't simple or easy paleotn Dec 2021 #55

Or likely. Nt Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #57

I think if it could be done peacefully, it would have happened already. Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #46

Maybe similar to the walk the former Soviet Union took. paleotn Dec 2021 #41

...and the biggest question after who gets the nukes...who's responsible for $29 trillion national debt? Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #59

What happens to the US military when it can no longer recruit from Red states? AncientAndy Dec 2021 #58

Not pure sectional, cut & dried. Many Ds in So. urban areas.. appalachiablue Dec 2021 #25

Gee, thanks. piddyprints Dec 2021 #28

I would hope I_UndergroundPanther Dec 2021 #43

I'll stay here and die if it comes to that. piddyprints Dec 2021 #52

Province of New England, Province of New York, Province of Michigan... roamer65 Dec 2021 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #61

If we have one, the first shot in that civil war was from Dylann Roof. ck4829 Dec 2021 #3

I tend to think the first shot in Civil War II was the indifference to COVID in the early stages... Girard442 Dec 2021 #36

Damn scary 3auld6phart Dec 2021 #4

I don't think they have the support Mr.Bill Dec 2021 #11

I do believe that the Trump wing of the GOP is anti-Democratic and would trash the constitution lees1975 Dec 2021 #5

No surprise, the insurgents become more angry when they win, and more angry when they lose bucolic_frolic Dec 2021 #6

I don't know if they own more guns - or maybe Dan Dec 2021 #20

Beware Prophecies of Civil War Mme. Defarge Dec 2021 #8

All brought to us by the Republican Party. Lonestarblue Dec 2021 #9

Reagan lit the fuel, Nixon, others active before 1981. appalachiablue Dec 2021 #27

I like to think more corporate, like a hostile takeover ... Auggie Dec 2021 #10

Good points. And done slowly enough that we don't know we're being boiled... erronis Dec 2021 #13

Yep Auggie Dec 2021 #15

Impt. point, longstanding goals in the larger picture. appalachiablue Dec 2021 #21

The Republican Party is the political arm of the oligopolists and oligarchs. hay rick Dec 2021 #38

+1 Auggie Dec 2021 #50

Also the Dominionists Martin Eden Dec 2021 #53

This time the rebels might get taken down by disease IronLionZion Dec 2021 #14

Got that right Traildogbob Dec 2021 #37

We make a serious mistake... appmanga Dec 2021 #18

The Trump-centric view is overemphasized. Reagan, also Nixon, appalachiablue Dec 2021 #29

Don't forget the failed election of 2000 dpibel Dec 2021 #44

A travesty with major consequences as we see. appalachiablue Dec 2021 #60

Bingo!! K&R onetexan Dec 2021 #54

Their supplies DownriverDem Dec 2021 #19

The food or the prescription meds? Crowman2009 Dec 2021 #45

Somebody should remind older Republicans ThoughtCriminal Dec 2021 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2021 #62

This behavior is not new ... SarcasticSatyr Dec 2021 #39

One side seems a bit more enthusiastic for Civil War II than the other Knight of the Middle Dec 2021 #48

Putin got an enormous return on his investment Martin Eden Dec 2021 #49

How about we go in and dismantle these fascists America hating groups hadEnuf Dec 2021 #56