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DeSwiss

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35. I have a great deal of respect for Joe Stiglitz.....
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 05:25 PM
Jun 2012

...but I'm afraid that this is the trajectory of Capitalism. Once the lawmakers are purchased, they are never returned. Neither is fairness, justice or equality. One cannot use a corrupted system to achieve in-corruption, nor to remove the corrupted from office. Thus leaving only revolution (not necessarily violent) as the only means to defeat it.

- Capitalism is a form of societal cancer. If not cut out it always kills its host. Period.

K&R

Brooks Adams’ chosen time-span begins and ends with the same arc of the cycle: the collapse of the Roman Empire and the threatened collapse of Western Civilization. Without subscribing to the inevitability structure inherent in cyclical theories of history, one nevertheless reads Adams’ description of societal fragmentation in Rome with a certain feeling of déjá-vu: the accelerating centralisation of money and agriculture; the dependence of status on wealth; the impoverishment of the small farmer; and especially the migration of the poor to the big cities. If you substitute the growth of automation for the influx of foreign slaves, the points of similarity with modern America are particularly striking. Both slaves and machines provide a cheap, depersonalized energy source, whose productivity enriches the entrepreneur rather than the worker who has been displaced. Adams had no illusions about the relationship between law and justice:

. . . as {the usurer} fed on insolvency and controlled legislation, the laws were as ingeniously contrived for creating debt, as for making it profitable when contracted. . . As the capitalists owned the courts and administered justice, they had the means at hand of ruining any plebeian whose property was tempting.

Nor was Adams’ perception of the nature of law confined to ancient Rome. He was able to see, clearer than his contemporaries, that it is no mere coincidence, nor a lex naturae, that the modern legal system is concerned mostly with the protection of property rights:

Abstract justice is, of course, impossible. Law is merely the expression of the will of the strongest for the time being, and therefore laws have no fixity, but shift from generation to generation. As competition sharpens . . . religious ritual is supplanted by civil codes for the enforcement of contracts and the protection of the creditor class.

The more society consolidates, the more legislation is controlled by the wealthy, and at length the representatives of the moneyed class acquire that absolute power once wielded by the Roman proconsul, and now exercised by the modern magistrate. Thus the modern legal system is infinitely subtle, and its enforcing officers equally efficient, in punishing those forms of theft which are not practiced by the ruling class; but robbery in the market-place is governed by primitive controls which lag far behind the sophisticated mechanisms which company lawyers contrive to circumvent them. One measure of a society is the problems it chooses to solve.

Rome’s ruling class was unable to restrain its rapacity, even in its own ultimate interest. Adams saw what liberals are rarely willing to admit—namely, that a system based on corrupt practice cannot be saved merely by tinkering with it. The stronghold of usury lay in the fiscal system, which down to the fall of the Empire was an engine for working bankruptcy. Rome’s policy was to farm the taxes; that is to say, after assessment, to sell them to a publican, who collected what he could. The business was profitable in proportion as it was extortionate, and the country was subjected to a levy, unregulated by law, and conducted to enrich speculators.


MORE: The Economics of Human Energy in Brooks Adams, Ezra Pound, and Robert Theobald - by John Whiting, London University

Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2012 #1
I saw him on Charlie Rose recently and closeupready Jun 2012 #2
That's what I've been trying to say. Baitball Blogger Jun 2012 #3
Spam deleted by Violet_Crumble (MIR Team) Beverly Weaver Jun 2012 #4
Kick and rec! Fuddnik Jun 2012 #5
knr G_j Jun 2012 #6
K&R raouldukelives Jun 2012 #7
I see no evidence that we're able/willing to reverse course. TahitiNut Jun 2012 #8
Tragically, I have to agree with you 100%. Flatulo Jun 2012 #28
I'm a little less discouraged. Blanks Jun 2012 #36
That'll happen only after many die ... and after there's no other choice. NONE. Even insane choices. TahitiNut Jun 2012 #40
A lot of people turned out to 'occupy'... Blanks Jun 2012 #46
Excellent post! tex-wyo-dem Jun 2012 #44
I don't have kids either. Brigid Jun 2012 #48
Apathy. People viewed the Iraq and Afghan "wars" is if they were video games - and do the same to NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #9
Income Inequality Ichingcarpenter Jun 2012 #10
that is a very important graphic. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #24
that is a very important quote Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #37
There's only one problem with that. Nobody gives a fuck about spiritual doom anymore. calimary Jun 2012 #39
Thank you Delphinus Jun 2012 #11
We have seen this before and we know how to fix it. Cary Jun 2012 #12
+1! snot Jun 2012 #15
It's not rocket science. Flatulo Jun 2012 #29
Our fathers and grandfathers knew some things. Cary Jun 2012 #32
Well, it was a different generation. A generation shaped by war and sacrifice. Flatulo Jun 2012 #33
Yes, there is something to that. Cary Jun 2012 #34
A generation with no Fox News. Blanks Jun 2012 #47
Bingo! Brigid Jun 2012 #49
I still vividly remember an appearance by Ted Kennedy on "The Daily Show." Brigid Jun 2012 #50
Add a small financial transaction tax to your list. Kaleko Jun 2012 #30
Yes, I like this idea. Cary Jun 2012 #31
What did "they" expect would happen moondust Jun 2012 #13
He forgot the third reason for the myth: snot Jun 2012 #14
Snot... Cary Jun 2012 #17
I'll never give up! But we must understand the systemic nature of the problem. snot Jun 2012 #21
I didn't intend to suggest that you were giving up. Cary Jun 2012 #26
+1 Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #27
Thank you Marmar. Wouldn't it be great if "the truth shall set you free." Not in a thoroughly dotymed Jun 2012 #16
+1! P.r., better named propaganda, is the one weapon that can neutralize truth. snot Jun 2012 #22
Well, as I've been saying, prepare for a 'terrifying future', because NOTHING will change. Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #18
Aren't you being a wee bit pessimistic ? Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #19
'They' now make money playing worker against worker globally. Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #20
we've been working hard for Dems who fail to return any power to workers. nashville_brook Jun 2012 #23
DU Rec woo me with science Jun 2012 #25
I have a great deal of respect for Joe Stiglitz..... DeSwiss Jun 2012 #35
k&r for reading later n/t w0nderer Jun 2012 #38
I'm reading his new book right now...... tpsbmam Jun 2012 #41
Not gonna work The Jungle 1 Jun 2012 #42
Stiglitz is right, of course... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2012 #43
it won't be reversed because both parties are contributing to it Skittles Jun 2012 #45
Everybody, all saying the same things, and people don't listen n/t clang1 Jun 2012 #51
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #52
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