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Effete Snob

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19. This is not the puzzler you think it is

Sun Dec 4, 2022, 06:24 PM

Dec 2022

What it demonstrates, however, is an underlying belief that sexual identity is a choice, like membership in a political organization.

Because in order to think you’ve made a valid comparison here, one has to believe that political beliefs are in the same category as skin color, disability, ethnic background or sexual identity

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Does the 1st Amendment protect a right to discriminate? [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 OP

Never understood this. A business is about making money. jimfields33 Dec 2022 #1

And if your business happens to be a bakery, one of many in town, Abolishinist Dec 2022 #6

I don't do cakes. jimfields33 Dec 2022 #10

She's asked to create a web site, not endorse the marriage. LakeVermilion Dec 2022 #2

So if she created general (not wedding specific) websites would she be required to kelly1mm Dec 2022 #13

Because being a Nazi is not an inherent aspect of personhood Effete Snob Dec 2022 #15

Lets change it slightly to a deeply held conviction that interracial marriage is a sin, thus falling kelly1mm Dec 2022 #18

Back when we had the bakery/wedding cake lawsuit going on, CrispyQ Dec 2022 #3

So a business should not be able to turn away racists/neo-nazis if it offers services kelly1mm Dec 2022 #14

Again, sexual identity is not a political belief Effete Snob Dec 2022 #17

Religion is a protected class so lets say I wanted a cake that says 'God Hates Gays'. Should a kelly1mm Dec 2022 #20

You're confusing discriminating against someone because of their religion CrispyQ Dec 2022 #25

As the USSC is taking this case up on free speech grounds it is really about compelled speech. kelly1mm Dec 2022 #26

Yes but they're not absolute as in In Reynolds v. United States, 98 U.S. 145 (1879), Uncle Joe Dec 2022 #28

After listening to oral arguments it looks like the USSC is going to carve out a narrow kelly1mm Dec 2022 #29

Bracing myself. 50 Shades Of Blue Dec 2022 #4

In the same sense that yelling "fire" is free speech. It's certainly freely made speech ... marble falls Dec 2022 #5

Actually, yelling fire, even in a crowded theater, IS protected speech. Abolishinist Dec 2022 #7

Actually it isn't. Even if it were, if a kid gets crushed in the panic, there's definately civil ... marble falls Dec 2022 #9

Yes, yes it is. Igel Dec 2022 #11

This OP is about the 1st Amendment, under which it IS protected speech. Abolishinist Dec 2022 #12

it's FALSELY yelling fire in a crowded theater Skittles Dec 2022 #32

I'm not sure what you mean by this, are you saying Abolishinist Dec 2022 #33

Their doing business in the public way. LuvLoogie Dec 2022 #8

Should a business that is open to the public be able to refuse service to racists/neo-nazis? Lets kelly1mm Dec 2022 #16

This is not the puzzler you think it is Effete Snob Dec 2022 #19

Religion is a protected class, just like skin color, national origin, ethnic background or kelly1mm Dec 2022 #21

So I will assume from your lack of comment that changing the underlying kelly1mm Dec 2022 #22

Are you equating being gay to being racist? LuvLoogie Dec 2022 #23

No, I am equating one protected class (religion) to another protected class (race, sexual kelly1mm Dec 2022 #24

We have two conflicting constiutional amendments Wonder Why Dec 2022 #27

they should be required to post that they discriminate Skittles Dec 2022 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 2022 #31